- From: Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
- Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 14:15:26 +0000
- To: "public-tt@w3.org" <public-tt@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <D7C6C703.67FA2%nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
This meeting is scheduled for up to 120 minutes. Please be ready for a prompt start at 14:03am UTC time. Our teleconference is scheduled with reference to UTC Time, the correct time of this teleconference in your locale may change. Check https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20180920T14&p1=1440 Thursdays 14:03am-16:00pm UTC Joining details: see https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-tt/2016Oct/0009.html (members-only link – if you can't see this and wish to join please contact me) ________________________________ Agenda+ Assign Roles Chairs: Nigel Megitt Scribe: usually Nigel – open to offers! Regrets: Activity since last meeting: See individual agenda items for recent activity on specific products Cross-product TTWG board: http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/board/ We are still using tracker for actions unrelated to issues. Please do not add or modify issues in tracker! IMSC: https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pulse TTML1: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/pulse TTML2: https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pulse TTML Profile Registry: https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pulse TTML-WebVTT mapping: https://github.com/w3c/ttml-webvtt-mapping/pulse WebVTT: https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pulse ________________________________ Agenda+ Prioritise discussion for this meeting and look ahead Check-point for order of topics – I'd suggest, subject to reordering: 1. Prioritise discussion for this meeting and look ahead 2. CfC Status update 3. TTML1 Implementation Report, Actions, Pull Requests and Issues 4. TTML2 Implementation Report, Actions, Pull Requests and Issues 5. IMSC Implementation Report, Actions, Pull Requests and Issues 6. IMSC vNext requirements Actions, Pull Requests and Issues 7. CSS Actions Review 8. TTML Profile Registry Actions, Pull Requests and Issues 9. WebVTT (David Singer to Chair if present) 10. TPAC 2018 – agenda, etc 11. AOB – please notify of any other AOB now! Reminder re future milestones and meetings: September meetings: Thursday 27th September: TTWG meeting 2 Hour(s) IMSC 1.1 and TTML publication events: see https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/specs-timeline.html Further ahead: Thursday 4th October: TTWG meeting 2 Hour(s) Thursday 11th October: TTWG meeting 2 Hour(s) Thursday 18th October: TTWG meeting 2 Hour(s) Monday 22nd October: TTWG f2f meeting at TPAC, Lyon Tuesday 23rd October: TTWG f2f meeting at TPAC, Lyon Note that no meeting is planned for Thursday 1st November currently. Next planned face to face: TPAC 2018 Lyon<https://www.w3.org/2018/10/TPAC/Overview.html>, 22-26 October. Future DST date changes: https://www.timeanddate.com/time/dst/2018.html In particular, this year, given our current attendance, the next change is: Europe changes on Sunday 28 October USA changes on Sunday 4 November Philippines, Japan and China has no DST in 2018 For meetings beginning 8th November we will move to UTC 1500 which is the same time as usual when not in DST. Agenda+ CfC status Call for Consensus to request transition of IMSC 1.1 to Proposed Recommendation<https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2018Sep/0074.html> Call for Consensus to request transition of TTML1 3rd Edition to Proposed Recommendation<https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2018Sep/0073.html> Call for Consensus to request transition of TTML2 to Proposed Recommendation<https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2018Sep/0072.html> The calls for consensus expire on 26th September. Current status: no objections received. ________________________________ Agenda+ TTML1 Implementation Report, Actions, Pull Requests and Issues Actions No actions due in tracker. Next steps to complete the TTML1 3rd Ed implementation report? https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML1-3ED_implementation_report Recent Activity 3 Pull requests merged by 2 people Merged #361 TTML1 3ED tests<https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/pull/361> Merged #365 Use ED entities while we're in ED<https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/pull/365> Merged #363 Fix summary of substantive changes<https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/pull/363> 2 Issues closed by 1 person Closed #364 Build script isn't updating spec date correctly<https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues/364> Closed #359 Error in the substantive change list<https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues/359> Proposed timeline for publication: https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/specs-timeline.html TTML1 3rd Edition CR2 was published on 9th August at https://www.w3.org/TR/ttml1/ (and pointed to by https://www.w3.org/TR/ttml1/ also). No pull requests merged or issues closed. Pull Requests To Review (if discussion requested) 1 Pull request proposed by 1 person Proposed #367 TTML1 3ED Proposed Recommendation<https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/pull/367> No pull requests open for longer. New (and old) Issues to Discuss 1 Issue created by 1 person Opened #366 Create PR draft<https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues/366> (Plus unresolved issues with ongoing conversations, to be confirmed.) No issues or pull requests marked for the agenda Links TTML1 issues and pull requests labelled for the agenda: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/labels/agenda TTML1 issues blocked: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/labels/blocked Current open issues: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues Most recent TTML1 3rd Edition CR: https://www.w3.org/TR/2018/CR-ttml1-20180424/ TTML1 Tests repo: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1-tests ________________________________ Agenda+ TTML2 Implementation Report, Actions, Pull Requests and Issues Actions What needs to be done to complete the TTML2 implementation report? https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/TTML2ImplementationReport See also https://github.com/w3c/ttml2-tests/pulse Recent Activity 7 Pull requests merged by 1 person Merged #1002 Update #audio-{description,speech} per WG resolution (#990).<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/1002> Merged #1000 Fix typos (#970).<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/1000> Merged #996 Clarify language regarding function-expression in @condition (#988).<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/996> Merged #995 Add missing 'prohibited' value to 'tts:validation' in schemas (#977).<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/995> Merged #994 Add reference to ttp:profile attribute in notes (#969); add missing l…<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/994> Merged #993 Fix name of tts:luminanceGain (#975).<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/993> Merged #992 Improve opacity data type for animation interoperability (#974).<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/992> 8 Issues closed by 1 person Closed #970 Fix typos.<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/970> Closed #988 Clarify language in 8.3.5 <condition>.<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/988> Closed #977 Add missing ttp:validation 'prohibited' value in schemas.<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/977> Closed #969 Add reference to ttp:profile attribute in 5.2.1.<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/969> Closed #975 Fix name of tts:luminanceGain in schemas.<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/975> Closed #974 Widen schema data type for `tts:opacity` to avoid false negative schema errors.<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/974> Closed #998 Prohibit zero numerator/denominator in XSD for ttp:displayAspectRatio<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/998> Closed #976 Fix CSS derivation of tts:displayAlign.<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/976> Proposed timeline for publication: https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/specs-timeline.html Pull Requests open for review (to discuss if requested): 1 Pull request proposed by 1 person Proposed #999 Change to PR status.<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/999> No pull request open for longer than a week. New (and old) Issues and Pull Requests to discuss: (Plus unresolved issues with ongoing conversations, to be confirmed.) TTML2 issues and pull requests labelled for the agenda: https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/labels/agenda 1 Issue created by 1 person Opened #1001 Add example fragments.<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/1001> There is currently one issue labelled for the Agenda: Audio related feature changes <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/990> agenda<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues?q=is%3Aopen+label%3Aagenda> Links Most recent CR published at https://www.w3.org/TR/2018/CR-ttml2-20180814/ Current ED available at https://w3c.github.io/ttml2/ Current open issues: https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues See spreadsheet of editorial actions at https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/blob/master/spec/ednotes.xlsx Edit/build instructions now in README in ttml2/spec/ at https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/blob/master/spec/README.md ________________________________ Agenda+ IMSC Implementation Report, Actions, Pull Requests and Issues Actions None in tracker. What is the status of the implementation report and test suite? Recent Activity 3 Pull requests merged by 1 person Merged #463 Clean-up Annex L and apply Tidy<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/463> Merged #460 Remove tts:lineShear from note at Section 8.4.5<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/460> Merged #458 Remove duplicate conformance text<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/458> 5 Issues closed by 2 people Closed #461 L.2.7 duplicates L.2.3<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/461> Closed #462 Features missing from L.2.5<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/462> Closed #455 Remove `#lineShear`<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/455> Closed #419 text profile should support anamorphic fonts<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/419> Closed #424 Conformance conventions are in two places, differently<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/424> Proposed timeline for publication: https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/specs-timeline.html Pull Requests To Review (if discussion requested) 1 Pull request proposed by 1 person Proposed #459 IMSC 1.1 Draft Proposed Recommendation<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/459> No pull requests open for more than a week. New (and old) Issues to Discuss No issues created this week. No issues or pull requests currently labelled as agenda. Links IMSC issues and pull requests labelled for the agenda: https://github.com/w3c/imsc/labels/agenda : IMSC issues blocked: https://github.com/w3c/imsc/labels/blocked IMSC 1.1 CR2 published at https://www.w3.org/TR/2018/CR-ttml-imsc1.1-20180726/ Patent policy call for exclusions sent 2017-02-03, archived at https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2017Feb/0006.html IMSC 1.0.1 Editor's draft is directly viewable at http://w3c.github.io/imsc/imsc1/spec/ttml-ww-profiles.html IMSC 1.0.1 Rec published at https://www.w3.org/TR/2018/REC-ttml-imsc1.0.1-20180424/ IMSC Implementation Page: https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/IMSC1_implementation_page. IMSC Tests repository: https://github.com/w3c/imsc-tests Unicode CLDR discussion Unicode ticket is at http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8915 Pierre's response to the recent update is at http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8915#comment:9 Email response from Shervin at Unicode https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0018.html ________________________________ Agenda+ IMSC vNext Requirements Links IMSCvNext Requirements editor's draft: https://w3c.github.io/imsc-vnext-reqs/ IMSCvNext Requirements repository: https://github.com/w3c/imsc-vnext-reqs Recent Activity No pull requests merged or issues closed this week. Pull requests for review (to discuss if requested) 1 Pull request proposed by 1 person Proposed #40 Initial Publication<https://github.com/w3c/imsc-vnext-reqs/pull/40> No issues created this week. We requested publication of this document as a WG Note. No issues or pull requests currently marked for the agenda. Links IMSC Requirements issues labelled for the agenda: https://github.com/w3c/imsc-vnext-reqs/labels/agenda : IMSC Requirements issues blocked: https://github.com/w3c/imsc-vnext-reqs/labels/blocked ________________________________ Agenda+ CSS actions review For reference, we have the following CSS issues open: [css-sizing][css-align][css-text] Aligning an aligned block of text within its container <https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1975> TTML<https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+ttml+label%3ATTML>css-align-4<https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+ttml+label%3Acss-align-4> css-sizing-4<https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+ttml+label%3Acss-sizing-4> css-text-4<https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+ttml+label%3Acss-text-4> [css-inline] Allow background of an inline area to extend to before-and after-edges of the line area <https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1974> TTML<https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+ttml+label%3ATTML> css-inline-3<https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+ttml+label%3Acss-inline-3> [css-inline][css-text-4] Allow padding to be applied at line start and end <https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1973> TTML<https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+ttml+label%3ATTML> css-inline-3<https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+ttml+label%3Acss-inline-3>css-text-4<https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+ttml+label%3Acss-text-4> #2983 Support for shearing of lines and inline elements<https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/2983> Additionally the following CSS issues may be of interest: [css-fonts-4] oblique angle for synthesis in vertical text <https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/2869> css-fonts-4<https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aopen+label%3Acss-fonts-4> [css-inline] Define the content area of inline boxes <https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/814> css-inline-3<https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3Acss-inline-3> Are CSS issues filed for all style attributes for which we believe CSS work is needed? See also https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2017Nov/0109.html CSS WG review Minutes from TTWG and CSS WG joint meeting at TPAC: https://www.w3.org/2017/11/09-tt-minutes.html#item35 Minutes from CSS WG Paris F2F that Nigel attended remotely on Friday 4th August: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2017Sep/0000.html This is at https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/CSSRequirements TAG design review issue: https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/138 CSS Review of TTML2, threads: FW: TTML2 horizontal review with CSS<https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0013.html> and Fwd: Subtitle/caption styling + TTML + CSS<https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0019.html> CSS 2.2 request for reviews from TTWG et al: Pre-announcement of CR for CSS 2.2 & request for reviews<https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0017.html> When can we schedule a review and gather feedback? ________________________________ Agenda+ TTML Profile Registry Links TTML Profile Registry editor's draft: https://w3c.github.io/tt-profile-registry/ TTML Profile Registry repository: https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry Recent Activity No pull requests merged or issues closed. Pull requests for review (to discuss if requested) No pull requests currently open. One pull request opened for longer than a week: Add support for IMSC 1.1 Text and Image Profile <https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pull/36> enhancement<https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/issues?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aopen+label%3Aenhancement> No issues created this week. No issues or pull requests currently marked for the agenda. Links TTML Profile Registry issues labelled for the agenda: https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/labels/agenda : ________________________________ Agenda+ WebVTT Actions None in tracker Links WebVTT Wide review wiki page: https://www.w3.org/wiki/WebVTT_Wide_Review Activity No pull requests proposed or closed this period. 5 pull requests open for longer than a week: Proposed #439 Fix some links from the linkchecker and the broken process document link<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/439> Proposed #430 Fontsize changes<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/430> Proposed #434 Add a definition of "video viewport" and how it relates in HTML5 to object size resolution.<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/434> Proposed #438 Update CLA and License agreement<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/438> Proposed #419Timeranges<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/419> No other (meaningful) issues created this period. ________________________________ Agenda+ TPAC 2018 TTWG TPAC 2018 wiki page: https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/tpac2018 Registration – please add names to the wiki page. Member-only list of registered participants: https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2018/registrants#TT Agenda for TPAC? Agenda+ AOB References Wiki http://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText
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