Re: Call for Consensus to publish WebVTT as a Candidate Recommendation

Hi Silvia,

> https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/blob/gh-pages/archives/2018-04-15/changes.html

The document shows no changes.

> Note that in WebVTT we put the snapshots into an "archive" directory rather than keeping additional branches open.

No need to keep a branch open: a git tag is sufficient (ideally
accompanied by a github release)... but ok.

> About that extra paragraph: it's not up to me to change it - it was provided like that by Thierry.

So... you do not object to removing the paragraph?

> This document is governed by the 1 March 2017 W3C Process Document.

The process is out-of-date:

https://www.w3.org/2018/Process-20180201/

Best,

-- Pierre

On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 1:00 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer
<silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Pierre,
>
> That link is here:
> https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/blob/gh-pages/archives/2018-04-15/changes.html
> .
> Also the diff is here:
> https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/blob/gh-pages/archives/2018-04-15/diff.html
> .
>
> These will be correct when published to the official W3C TR site
> because they are relative links. The <base> URL was introduced by
> htmlpreview which is why they are not rendering directly in the
> subdirectory.
>
> Note that in WebVTT we put the snapshots into an "archive" directory
> rather than keeping additional branches open. That reduces confusion
> in the GitHub repository between what is a branch with data for PR and
> what is the actual committed content. I still believe it is correct
> since work on the specification is done by both. That this snapshot is
> being processed by the TTWG should not make a difference to this
> statement, IMHO.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Silvia.
>
> About that extra paragraph: it's not up to me to change it - it was
> provided like that by Thierry.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 6:52 AM, Pierre-Anthony Lemieux
> <pal@sandflow.com> wrote:
>> Hi Silvia,
>>
>> This does not seem right:
>>
>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/w3c/webvtt/gh-pages/archives/2018-04-15/changes.html
>>
>> Also, can the following be removed since the specification is now
>> managed by TTWG:
>>
>> """
>> Work on this specification is being undertaken both in the Web Media
>> Text Tracks Community Group as well as in the W3C Timed Text Working
>> Group. The latter group works towards a W3C Recommendation for
>> reference purposes with interoperability requirements, while the
>> former is a Draft Community Group Report that continues to evolve.
>> """
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -- Pierre
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 12:47 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer
>> <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> David jumped the gun with his email a little - Thierry and I first
>>> needed to land that pull request.
>>>
>>> You can find the proper link at
>>> https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/blob/gh-pages/archives/2018-04-15/Overview.html
>>> .
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> Silvia.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 3:43 AM, David Singer <singer@apple.com> wrote:
>>>> Thierry wrote the status of this document, not me.
>>>>
>>>> I think he also has a better URL for it, but I can’t find it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 30, 2018, at 9:23 , Pierre-Anthony Lemieux <pal@sandflow.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi David et al.,
>>>>>
>>>>> This document is not hosted on the W3C github repo? Why not simply
>>>>> create a CR branch at https://github.com/w3c/webvtt ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, the following paragraph should be removed since this
>>>>> specification is managed by TTWG exclusively at this point -- the CG
>>>>> has no control over it.
>>>>
>>>> No formal control, indeed, but we are trying (and so far succeeding) to avoid forks and differences, so I prefer to keep the paragraph.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> """Work on this specification is being undertaken both in the Web
>>>>> Media Text Tracks Community Group as well as in the W3C Timed Text
>>>>> Working Group. The latter group works towards a W3C Recommendation for
>>>>> reference purposes with interoperability requirements, while the
>>>>> former is a Draft Community Group Report that continues to evolve."""
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Pierre
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 9:16 AM, David Singer <singer@apple.com> wrote:
>>>>>> [sending again as plain text in case the HTML format was hiding a spurious link]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> following this week's call giving conceptual approval pending the preparation of the CR document, and the preparation by Thierry and Silvia of the CR draft at <https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/silviapfeiffer/webvtt-spec/blob/f8da4f27205ed2c11b7dedbf46d91b363eaafe9b/archives/2018-04-15/Overview.html> is now ready for us to request transition to Candidate Recommendation: I think that the obvious typo in “Diff from previous” has been or will imminently be fixed. This email is a call for consensus to make the transition based on this version of the document; barring any objections within the WG's Decision Policy period of 10 working days as defined in the Charter, I will ask for this transition request to be made.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (Thierry/Silvia, if there is a better link, let us know)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For transition request purposes, assuming no objections, I will record this as a resolution in the minutes of the next call.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please review the document and if possible confirm that you agree with this resolution; silence will be taken as acceptance, but an explicit approval would be much appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you spot any problems please raise issues as normal on the GitHub repository. We can make minor editorial fixes such as typo fixes any time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks to everyone who contributed to the push to get to this state over the last few months: this represents a lot of hard work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> kind regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> David Singer
>>>> Manager, Software Standards, Apple Inc.
>>>>

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