Re: Call for Consensus to publish WebVTT as a Candidate Recommendation

> On Mar 30, 2018, at 13:12 , Pierre-Anthony Lemieux <pal@sandflow.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Silvia,
> 
>> https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/blob/gh-pages/archives/2018-04-15/changes.html
> 
> The document shows no changes.

Thierry?

> 
>> Note that in WebVTT we put the snapshots into an "archive" directory rather than keeping additional branches open.
> 
> No need to keep a branch open: a git tag is sufficient (ideally
> accompanied by a github release)... but ok.
> 
>> About that extra paragraph: it's not up to me to change it - it was provided like that by Thierry.
> 
> So... you do not object to removing the paragraph?
> 
>> This document is governed by the 1 March 2017 W3C Process Document.
> 
> The process is out-of-date:
> 
> https://www.w3.org/2018/Process-20180201/

Thierry?

> 
> Best,
> 
> -- Pierre
> 
> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 1:00 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer
> <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Pierre,
>> 
>> That link is here:
>> https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/blob/gh-pages/archives/2018-04-15/changes.html
>> .
>> Also the diff is here:
>> https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/blob/gh-pages/archives/2018-04-15/diff.html
>> .
>> 
>> These will be correct when published to the official W3C TR site
>> because they are relative links. The <base> URL was introduced by
>> htmlpreview which is why they are not rendering directly in the
>> subdirectory.
>> 
>> Note that in WebVTT we put the snapshots into an "archive" directory
>> rather than keeping additional branches open. That reduces confusion
>> in the GitHub repository between what is a branch with data for PR and
>> what is the actual committed content. I still believe it is correct
>> since work on the specification is done by both. That this snapshot is
>> being processed by the TTWG should not make a difference to this
>> statement, IMHO.
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> Silvia.
>> 
>> About that extra paragraph: it's not up to me to change it - it was
>> provided like that by Thierry.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 6:52 AM, Pierre-Anthony Lemieux
>> <pal@sandflow.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Silvia,
>>> 
>>> This does not seem right:
>>> 
>>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/w3c/webvtt/gh-pages/archives/2018-04-15/changes.html
>>> 
>>> Also, can the following be removed since the specification is now
>>> managed by TTWG:
>>> 
>>> """
>>> Work on this specification is being undertaken both in the Web Media
>>> Text Tracks Community Group as well as in the W3C Timed Text Working
>>> Group. The latter group works towards a W3C Recommendation for
>>> reference purposes with interoperability requirements, while the
>>> former is a Draft Community Group Report that continues to evolve.
>>> """
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> -- Pierre
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 12:47 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer
>>> <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> David jumped the gun with his email a little - Thierry and I first
>>>> needed to land that pull request.
>>>> 
>>>> You can find the proper link at
>>>> https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/blob/gh-pages/archives/2018-04-15/Overview.html
>>>> .
>>>> 
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>> Silvia.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 3:43 AM, David Singer <singer@apple.com> wrote:
>>>>> Thierry wrote the status of this document, not me.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think he also has a better URL for it, but I can’t find it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 30, 2018, at 9:23 , Pierre-Anthony Lemieux <pal@sandflow.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi David et al.,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This document is not hosted on the W3C github repo? Why not simply
>>>>>> create a CR branch at https://github.com/w3c/webvtt ?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Also, the following paragraph should be removed since this
>>>>>> specification is managed by TTWG exclusively at this point -- the CG
>>>>>> has no control over it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> No formal control, indeed, but we are trying (and so far succeeding) to avoid forks and differences, so I prefer to keep the paragraph.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> """Work on this specification is being undertaken both in the Web
>>>>>> Media Text Tracks Community Group as well as in the W3C Timed Text
>>>>>> Working Group. The latter group works towards a W3C Recommendation for
>>>>>> reference purposes with interoperability requirements, while the
>>>>>> former is a Draft Community Group Report that continues to evolve."""
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- Pierre
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 9:16 AM, David Singer <singer@apple.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> [sending again as plain text in case the HTML format was hiding a spurious link]
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> following this week's call giving conceptual approval pending the preparation of the CR document, and the preparation by Thierry and Silvia of the CR draft at <https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/silviapfeiffer/webvtt-spec/blob/f8da4f27205ed2c11b7dedbf46d91b363eaafe9b/archives/2018-04-15/Overview.html> is now ready for us to request transition to Candidate Recommendation: I think that the obvious typo in “Diff from previous” has been or will imminently be fixed. This email is a call for consensus to make the transition based on this version of the document; barring any objections within the WG's Decision Policy period of 10 working days as defined in the Charter, I will ask for this transition request to be made.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> (Thierry/Silvia, if there is a better link, let us know)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> For transition request purposes, assuming no objections, I will record this as a resolution in the minutes of the next call.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Please review the document and if possible confirm that you agree with this resolution; silence will be taken as acceptance, but an explicit approval would be much appreciated.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If you spot any problems please raise issues as normal on the GitHub repository. We can make minor editorial fixes such as typo fixes any time.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks to everyone who contributed to the push to get to this state over the last few months: this represents a lot of hard work.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> kind regards,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> David Singer
>>>>> Manager, Software Standards, Apple Inc.
>>>>> 

David Singer
Manager, Software Standards, Apple Inc.

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