- From: Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
- Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 13:44:36 +0000
- To: "public-tt@w3.org" <public-tt@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <D47EE63C.33373%nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
This meeting is scheduled for up to 60m. Please be ready for a prompt start at 10:03am Boston time. Our teleconference is scheduled with reference to Boston Time, the correct time of this teleconference in your locale may change. Check https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20161222T10&p1=43 Thursdays 10:03am-11:00am (or 12:00pm for 2 hour meetings) Boston local Joining details: see https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-tt/2016Oct/0009.html (members-only link – if you can't see this and wish to join please contact me) Agenda+ Assign Roles Chairs: Nigel Megitt Scribe: usually Nigel – open to offers! Regrets: Thierry Activity since last meeting: See individual agenda items for recent activity on specific products Cross-product TTWG board: http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/board/ We are still using tracker for actions unrelated to issues. Please do not add or modify issues in tracker! IMSC: https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pulse TTML1: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/pulse TTML2: https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pulse TTML Profile Registry: https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pulse TTML-WebVTT mapping: https://github.com/w3c/ttml-webvtt-mapping/pulse WebVTT: https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pulse Agenda+ Prioritise discussion for this meeting and look ahead Check-point for order of topics – I'd suggest, subject to reordering: 1. F2F Meeting planning 2. IMSC (now incorporates Unicode ticket) 3. Profiles registry 4. TTML2 issues, actions, PRs etc 5. TTML and WebVTT mapping document 6. Progress on HTMLCue proposal 7. WebVTT comments 8. AOB – please notify of any other AOB now! Reminder re future milestones and meetings: December Meetings: Thursday 29th December: No meeting Further ahead: Thursday 5th January: No meeting Thursday 12th January and Friday 13th January, F2F Meeting in London, UK. Wiki page: http://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/F2F-jan-2017 Thursday 19th January: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour Thursday 26th January: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour IMSC 2 and TTML2 publication events: see the timeline of upcoming work at https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/Publications#Timeline_of_TTML2_and_IMSC2_work Agenda+ F2F planning [placeholder] Thursday 12th January and Friday 13th January, F2F Meeting in London, UK. Wiki page: http://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/F2F-jan-2017 ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with ACTION-491<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/491>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/491/edit> open Generate detailed (timed) agenda for f2f to allow people to prepare in advance<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/491> Nigel Megitt 2016-12-22 The agenda topics for TTML2 now include all the open issues for review and hopefully closure. Please register for the F2F by adding your name to the wiki by 23rd December 2016. Agenda+ IMSC (now incorporates Unicode ticket) Unicode CLDR discussion Unicode ticket is at http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8915 Pierre's response to the recent update is at http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8915#comment:9 Email response from Shervin at Unicode https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0018.html Merged pull requests: none Open pull requests: none New or discussed issues: "green" is not quite green<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/190>; Example 10 - fontHeight problem<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/189>; Example 4 typo - extent height<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/188>; Errata document has wrong text encoding for IRT full name<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/183>; Highlight semantics of smpte:backgroundImage<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/178> Editor's draft is directly viewable at https://rawgit.com/w3c/imsc1/master/spec/ttml-ww-profiles.html IMSC Implementation Page: https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/IMSC1_implementation_page. Agenda+ Profiles registry. Working Group Note published at https://www.w3.org/TR/ttml-profile-registry/ Merged pull request: n<https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pull/27>one Open pull requests: Add section 4 descriptions<https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pull/28>; Update index.html<https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pull/30> Closed issues: none New issue: none https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry http://w3c.github.io/tt-profile-registry/ https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/ProfileRegistry Agenda+ TTML1 & TTML2 issues, actions, PRs, editorial actions etc ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with ACTION-480<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/480>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/480/edit> pending review Request schedule time for horizontal review of ttml2<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/480> Thierry Michel 2016-09-26 TTML2<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4> Liaison acknowledgement response received, archived at https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-tt/2016Dec/0004.html CSS Review of TTML2, threads: FW: TTML2 horizontal review with CSS<https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0013.html> and Fwd: Subtitle/caption styling + TTML + CSS<https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0019.html> CSS 2.2 request for reviews from TTWG et al: Pre-announcement of CR for CSS 2.2 & request for reviews<https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0017.html> When can we schedule a review and gather feedback? ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with ACTION-443<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/443>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/443/edit> open Prepare a document showing mapping arib ruby extension features to ttml2 for use as a liaison document to arib.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/443> Glenn Adams 2016-08-26 TTML2<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4> ACTION-462<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/462>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/462/edit> open Create issue on ttml2 to add "mapping from other versions and profiles of ttml"<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/462> Glenn Adams 2016-04-28 TTML2<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4> Most recent WD published at https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/WD-ttml2-20161117/ Merged Pull Requests: None Open Pull Requests: Issue 0193 add examples of ja features<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/202>.; Add tts:textShadow example and modify semantics<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/218> New TTML1 Issues: no begin times in Pop-On example in Appendex O<https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues/224> New TTML2 Issues: no begin times in Pop-On example in Appendex P<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/227>; What is the painting order for image, text, backgroundImage and backgroundColor?<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/228> Discussed or Closed TTML1 Issues: Do tts:origin and tts:extent apply to the padded rectangle or the content rectangle? (c.f. XSL and CSS definitions)<https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues/221> Closed TTML2 Issues: Deterministic text wrapping and presentation<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/86>; Specify attribute value syntax post-normalization<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/190> Discussed TTML2 Issues (in decreasing order of comments added, excluding those that have only been labelled): Percentage and writing mode relative edges apply to tts:padding<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/144>; Embedded graphics don't fully meet requirement<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/141>; Ways to make span background height be lineHeight<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/150>; Should background of a span be height of text in line or computed lineHeight?<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/101>; The tts:lineHeight property should apply to span<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/131>; Regarding initial value of tts:lineHeight<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/87>; Add support for marquee style semantics<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/119>; Add identifier support for related ordered sequences of documents<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/122>; Define HTML5 Mapping<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/127>; Implement Requirements conformance changes described in Action-372<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/130>; The width of content elements' areas is unclear, especially looking at the examples<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/134>; Clarify the application specific usages of clockMode="local"<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/136>; The tts:displayAlign property may need to apply to content elements<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/137>; The tts:textAlign property may need to apply to div, body<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/138>; There's no apparent use case for the "any" term in ttp:contentProfiles<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/139>; Consider applying ipd or bpd to content images<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/140>; <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/149> Model for binding presentation values to externally defined parameters<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/149>; TTML Intermediate Document Type "non-hierarchical"<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/225> TTML2 Issues identified as candidates for closure: Use of content encoding<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/124>; Allow negative times to be used in fragment begin times<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/109>; Style attribute to prevent overflow by shrinking text to fit on a line<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/97>; Inline space<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/53>; Individual character rotation<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/47>; The values for alpha in rgba() don't correspond to CSS3 Color definitions<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/38>; Current open issues: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues and https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues See spreadsheet of editorial actions at https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/blob/master/spec/ednotes.xlsx Edit/build instructions now in README in ttml2/spec/ at https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/blob/master/spec/README.md More volunteers welcomed! TTML Change Proposals – progress and review Change Proposal Index is at http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/ChangeProposalIndex The current priority 2 CPs (needs to be complete before WD for Wide Review) are: 5 OPEN 2 Jerry Smith TTML2 HTML5 Mapping semantics<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal005> 7 OPEN 2 Pierre-Anthony Lemieux TTML2 3D extensions<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal007> 9 OPEN 2 Pierre-Anthony Lemieux IMSC2 Complexity model<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal009> 11 OPEN 2 Pierre-Anthony Lemieux TTML2 Metadata vocab<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal011> 15 OPEN 2 Glenn Adams TTML2 Style.CSS additions<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal015> 17 OPEN 2 Glenn Adams TTML2 Style.Defaults<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal017> 19 OPEN 2 Glenn Adams TTML2 Style.Syntax fixes<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal019> 21 OPEN 2 Pierre-Anthony Lemieux TTML2 Typography.I18n<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal021> 25 OPEN 2 Nigel Megitt TTML2 Distribution<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal025> Agenda+ TTML and WebVTT Mapping Document Editor's Draft is at http://w3c.github.io/ttml-webvtt-mapping/ Agenda+ HTMLCue proposal progress update. ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with ACTION-441<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/441>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/441/edit> open Kick off the analysis work on the vttcue carrying html idea.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/441> Andreas Tai 2015-11-05 See https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Apr/0012.html for further information on this, this week. Also HTML import and HTMLCue?<https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Sep/0003.html> email from 2016-09-06. [placeholder agenda item] Agenda+ WebVTT review feedback ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with ACTION-396<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396/edit> open Produce evidence of request for wide review for webvtt, for the archive<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396> David Singer 2015-04-17 WebVTT 1.0<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/8> ACTION-473<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/473>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/473/edit> open Contact co-chairs and essential parties on how to move forward on vtt; need an action plan<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/473> Thierry Michel 2016-06-30 WebVTT 1.0<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/8> Discussion on WebVTT review feedback and next steps. WebVTT Wide review wiki page: https://www.w3.org/wiki/WebVTT_Wide_Review Open Pull requests: Add a section that explains the CSS extensions to authors.<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/317>; Fix #270: Add classes to specify text colour<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/279>; Add requirements for region identifier to exist.<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/201>.<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/201> New issues: None Closed issues: None Recently discussed issues: n<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/issues/264>one Agenda+ AOB References Wiki http://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText ---------------------------- http://www.bbc.co.uk This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. 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