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Re: DNT:1 and "data append"

From: John Simpson <john@consumerwatchdog.org>
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 21:02:49 -0700
Cc: David Singer <singer@apple.com>, Working Group <public-tracking@w3.org>
Message-Id: <B93A9FB9-CA48-4D9F-AF92-EBA10DA52CD4@consumerwatchdog.org>
To: Peter Swire <peter@peterswire.net>
Peter

I wasn't tasked with writing text, but strongly suggest that what I suggested  is definitely worth discussing. Some of us -- without implying any criticism of others -- pay attention to what you say we will discuss. I understand that for understandable reasons text wasn't supplied by others. Nonetheless, mine is a serious proposal. It deserves consideration. You said this topic was something for consideration on this week's call. I've given the topic serious consideration, offered text and already had a response on the listserv.  My text could be woefully inadequate, but if you suggest we should talk about something, then we should do it when you say we will or this process will drag on for another year-and-a-half and become completely irrelevant.

If you draw the conclusion from what I said above that I am less than thrilled with you suggestion for yet another unnecessary delay you would be *correct*. 

73s,
John
 

On Mar 18, 2013, at 7:50 PM, Peter Swire <peter@peterswire.net> wrote:

> Hello Working Group:
> 
> We had hoped to have data append on the agenda for this Wednesday, but the people tasked with writing a proposal were not able to get it done in time.
> 
> They think it will likely be available for next week, so any  data append discussion will be put off until then.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Peter
> 
> 
> 
> Professor Peter P. Swire
> C. William O'Neill Professor of Law
>     Ohio State University
> 240.994.4142
> www.peterswire.net
> 
> From: David Singer <singer@apple.com>
> Date: Monday, March 18, 2013 9:16 PM
> To: Working Group <public-tracking@w3.org>
> Subject: Re: DNT:1 and "data append"
> Resent-From: <public-tracking@w3.org>
> Resent-Date: Monday, March 18, 2013 9:17 PM
> 
> 
> On Mar 18, 2013, at 15:52 , Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) <ifette@google.com> wrote:
> 
>> Presumably there would be some carve-outs here? E.g. if you come to my site with DNT1 and buy something with me,
> 
> then the site just became a first party (unless somehow the user can buy without knowingly interacting with the site…), and there are few rules for you...
> 
> John, can you back up a bit and remind me what the scenario is that troubles you, and then I can try to be more helpful...
> 
>> I'm going to share identifiable information with FedEx so that they can deliver your product...
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 3:44 PM, John Simpson <john@consumerwatchdog.org> wrote:
>>> Colleagues,
>>> 
>>> I wanted to propose some privacy friendly text that would cover the "data append" situation when DNT:1 is sent.  I think others are working on possible language,  but I wanted to make my proposed language available for consideration and discussion.
>>> 
>>> Normative
>>> When DNT:1 is received:
>>> 
>>> -- A 1st Party MUST NOT share share identifiable data with another party.
>>> -- A 1st Party MUST NOT combine identifiable data from another party with data it has collected while a 1st Party.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> John
>>> 
>>> ---------
>>> John M. Simpson
>>> Privacy Project Director
>>> Consumer Watchdog
>>> 2701 Ocean Park Blvd., Suite 112
>>> Santa Monica, CA, 90405
>>> Tel: 310-392-7041
>>> Cell: 310-292-1902
>>> www.ConsumerWatchdog.org
>>> john@consumerwatchdog.org
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 
> David Singer
> Multimedia and Software Standards, Apple Inc.
> 
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