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Re: Issue 153

From: Walter van Holst <walter.van.holst@xs4all.nl>
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 20:21:29 +0100
Message-ID: <52AA0CB9.1080205@xs4all.nl>
To: public-tracking@w3.org
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On 12/12/2013 17:11, Shane M Wiley wrote:
> Mike,
> 
> A parent can override all signals at the device.  An entire
> industry has been built around parental controls with many
> operating systems and some browsers coming with these built in.
> There is no need for an intermediary.

There is no way you can get to remotely effective parental controls
that way. If the device is under control of the child/teenager,
parental controls can (and often will) be circumvented. Without
outside help and an extraordinary level of technical proficiency, this
is not possible in case of parental control at the router level.

Most of that 'industry' you are referring to are snake-oil salespeople
who are selling objectively inadequate 'solutions'.

To repeat what David Singer has said before: let us not exclude
use-cases, just acknowledge that we've been focusing on browsers on
desktops/laptops without meaning to make life for other types of user
agents harder. And move on.

As a rule of thumb: any issue that tries to fix a problem that in
real-life only can be detected based on user agent strings should be
closed since if you are at the point you do not trust a user agent
regarding a DNT preference you cannot trust the user agent string
either. That applies to plugins, extensions, routers, whatever.
Because as soon you start sending a 'D' flag the next step for plugin
makers will be to drop advertising their presence in the user agent
string.

So you're getting nothing in return for overly complicating the TPE.
Which is hardly constructive.

Regards,

 Walter
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