Re: ACTION-273/ISSUE-181: Multiple First Parties

Apologies, Rob. Belatedly getting to  my inbox today…  Your treatment of the Facebook/Macys example seems correct too  me.  Facebook as the platform is the first party I'm interacting with.  Seems to me your approach on widgets in a platform is correct as well.


On Apr 2, 2013, at 9:32 PM, Rob Sherman <> wrote:

> One of the agenda items on tomorrow's call is evaluating text on multiple first parties.  Peter circulated as a part of the agenda the two text proposals — one offered by me and the other by Justin Brookman — that have been suggested to cover this issue.  Justin and I have since spent some time trying to bring these proposals closer together and have come up with this language, which is offered for discussion:
>> In most network interactions, there will be only one first party with which the user intends to interact.  However, in some cases, a network resource will be jointly operated by two or more parties, and a user would reasonably expect to communicate with all of them by accessing that resource.  User understanding that multiple parties operate a particular resource could be accomplished through inclusion of multiple parties' brands in a URI, or prominent branding on the resource indicating that multiple parties are responsible for content or functionality on the resource with which a user reasonably would expect to interact by accessing the resource.  Simple branding of a party that merely serves as a service provider to the single entity providing a resource will not be sufficient to make that party a first party in any particular network interaction.
> We've also discussed an example (text to be finalized, but draft offered for context) to illustrate this:
> EXAMPLE:  Example News operates a news website,  Example Analytics measures usage of and provides Example News with aggregate data regarding that usage. is branded with the logo, but the homepage also includes an indication that the website is "powered by Example Analytics."  Despite this branding, only Example News would be a first party.
> A final issue that we've been discussing is the issue of multiple parties operating on a platform — the example that we discussed on our call.  Justin and I agreed that a reasonable approach in this case is to treat the platform operator as the first party and the owner of the page as a third party.  The main issue here is that users expect the platform to share actions on the page with the page owner in a way that is consistent with the platform's privacy policy.  We agreed that, because of the disclosure in the privacy policy and the context of the user's interaction with the platform, the page owner doesn't need to be a first party for this to happen.  Assuming others agree on this point, Justin and I can work on language to implement it.
> One other wrinkle in the platform context is applications that are essentially embeddable programs that happen to be accessible from within a platform.  My sense is that we can handle this like any other widget/plugin — third party until a user interacts, then first party — though Justin may have a different view.
> Look forward to discussing this on the call tomorrow.
> Rob Sherman
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Received on Wednesday, 3 April 2013 18:48:24 UTC