RE: Your W3C affiliation with Stanford University?

Can we all take a step back here. The current acrimony is a distraction from what we are trying to achieve here. Though we may not always agree with each other, we should respect each other's right to provide input.  Let's stop asking for credentials and focus on the resolving the open issues.

How about a cooling off period for the DL for the rest of the day and we can come back tomorrow with some fresh ideas for moving forward.

Sincerely,
JC


From: Chris Mejia [mailto:chris.mejia@iab.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 3:19 PM
To: John Simpson; Jonathan Mayer
Cc: public-tracking@w3.org; Thomas Roessler - W3C; Nicholas "Nick" Doty - W3C
Subject: Re: Your W3C affiliation with Stanford University?

John,

I work for both the IAB and the DAA.  The IAB is a founding member of the DAA.  For the IAB, I'm a Director of Ad Technology.  For the DAA, I am Technology Director.  You may view more of my background if you like, here: http://www.linkedin.com/in/chrismejia.  DAA is a member of the W3C.

Historically speaking, IAB U.S. was asked to participate in the working group.  Mike Zaneis was the first to participate from IAB.  Mike asked that I join, due to my role and background in ad technology and our industry.  Accordingly, I officially joined the forum just before the Washington DC face-to-face and have been a faithful participant (weekly, daily) since.

Nick Doty of the W3C, copied here, can clarify further if you like, but rather than spending everyone's bandwidth with a continuance of this as a public inquiry, you may want to take it offline (just a suggestion- but your call).

And I'll point out John, that my two emails to Jonathan today were both offline, until he posted my private emails (addressed just to him) on this public thread- I'm equally dismayed.

Chris



Chris Mejia | Digital Supply Chain Solutions | Ad Technology Group | Interactive Advertising Bureau - IAB



From: John Simpson <john@consumerwatchdog.org<mailto:john@consumerwatchdog.org>>
Date: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 2:46 PM
To: Jonathan Mayer <jmayer@stanford.edu<mailto:jmayer@stanford.edu>>
Cc: Chris Mejia - IAB <chris.mejia@iab.net<mailto:chris.mejia@iab.net>>, W3C DNT Working Group Mailing List <public-tracking@w3.org<mailto:public-tracking@w3.org>>, Thomas Roessler - W3C <tlr@w3.org<mailto:tlr@w3.org>>
Subject: Re: Your W3C affiliation with Stanford University?

I am dismayed and  puzzled by the turn the email exchanges have taken over the last few days.

That said, could you, Chris, please clarify your status and the status of IAB within the working group?  It's possible that the list of participants on the WG's website is not current and if that's the case, I apologize. But, from what I could see, you are not listed as a Working Group participant nor is IAB.

The only reference to an Interactive Advertising Bureau is to four members representing IAB Europe.

You frequently offer thoughtful, incisive analysis and I always read you emails with interest, but to echo your question to Jonathan: For whom do you speak?

73s,
John


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On Oct 24, 2012, at 2:05 PM, Jonathan Mayer wrote:


Chris,

I believe I've been entirely transparent about the terms of my participation in the working group.  I'd like to continue to be open about this procedural issue, and so it seems only appropriate to field questions on the group's mailing list.

As to the particulars: I participate in the working group through Stanford University's W3C membership.  You're welcome to share your concerns with the Stanford institutions I listed.  All maintain public websites and contact information.

I would be glad to answer any further questions in your newly-"launched . . . inquiry about [my]/Stanford's participation."

Jonathan


On Wednesday, October 24, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Chris Mejia wrote:
I wrote a personal email to you Jonathan.  Why did you find it necessary to copy the public working group on your reply?

I'm copying Thomas Roessler, as I have launched an inquiry about your/Stanford's participation in this working group, and your conduct here.

Btw- you didn't actually answer my questions:

  1.  Is your involvement in this working group through your student affiliation at Stanford University?
  2.  Would you please broker an introduction to your supervisor?
Thank You,

C. Mejia

Chris Mejia | Digital Supply Chain Solutions | Ad Technology Group | Interactive Advertising Bureau - IAB
From: Jonathan Mayer <jmayer@stanford.edu<mailto:jmayer@stanford.edu>>
Date: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 1:27 PM
To: Chris Mejia - IAB <chris.mejia@iab.net<mailto:chris.mejia@iab.net>>, W3C DNT Working Group Mailing List <public-tracking@w3.org<mailto:public-tracking@w3.org>>
Subject: Re: Your W3C affiliation with Stanford University?

Chris,

My research groups at Stanford are the Security Lab, the Center for Internet and Society, and the Center for International Security and Cooperation.  I'm generously funded by a Stanford Interdisciplinary Graduate Fellowship, which is overseen by the Vice Provost for Graduate Education.  You can direct your concerns to those institutions.

I speak only for myself, of course.  I've made that clear on many occasions.

Jonathan


On Wednesday, October 24, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Chris Mejia wrote:
Hi Jonathan,

Thanks again for taking time to meet with me last week in San Francisco- I found our conversation enlightening.

In following up on my previous request, I'll be frank here, not to be rude, but to be transparent and forthcoming.  I'd like to understand if your participation in the W3C is through your student affiliation with Stanford University (they are the W3C member), or if it's you representing your own personal views, positions and assertions?  As you are currently listed as a participant under Stanford's membership to the W3C, I'd like to know who (which Stanford staff/department) supervises your contributions to the working group?  If you could kindly broker an introduction, it would be appreciated.

Thank You,

Chris

Chris Mejia | Digital Supply Chain Solutions | Ad Technology Group | Interactive Advertising Bureau - IAB