- From: David Singer <singer@apple.com>
- Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 15:15:41 -0700
- To: Shane Wiley <wileys@yahoo-inc.com>
- Cc: "public-tracking@w3.org (public-tracking@w3.org)" <public-tracking@w3.org>
On Aug 22, 2012, at 15:01 , Shane Wiley <wileys@yahoo-inc.com> wrote: > David, > > If the user "does nothing" then they are given the express install which is "DNT ON by Default". So to use your logic, "Do Nothing = DNT On by Default = Non-compliant". Perhaps the devil is in the details, but I read the blog post (which is rather brief and all I have to go on) as saying the user can choose something vaguely like * express: this sets the following settings, with the following consequences: … do not track: enabled; this suggests to sites [[and so on]]…and may have consequences such as [[and so on]] …[[other settings]] * custom: [ ] do not track: if checked, this suggests to sites [[and so on]]…and may have consequences such as [[and so on]] … [[other settings]] If this is the case, the user has been asked in every case, and the word 'default' does not apply. Perhaps we should wait to see the actual product; we may be off into hypothetical weeds here. > > - Shane > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Singer [mailto:singer@apple.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 2:57 PM > To: public-tracking@w3.org (public-tracking@w3.org) > Subject: Re: action-231, issue-153 requirements on other software that sets DNT headers > > > On Aug 22, 2012, at 14:14 , Tamir Israel <tisrael@cippic.ca> wrote: > >> Shane -- can you (and others) please confirm whether MSFT's new proposal, which will prompt users to make a DNT election during Win8 install, is 'representing user's choice' or not? Also please confirm whether this is still a clear case or not? >> >> http://blogs.technet.com/b/microsoft_on_the_issues/archive/2012/08/07/do-not-track-in-the-windows-8-set-up-experience.aspx >> >> To me it appeared as though MSFT was now making a good faith effort to bring their IE10 DNT into compliance. >> >> > > I am a little puzzled, actually, as I take 'default' to mean what happens if you don't do anything. If it asks every user on install/first-use, then every user is expressing a preference, and there is no 'default'. The most that there can be is a suggestion, or an initially checked box, suggesting that the user take a certain choice or direction, but it's no longer a 'default' (IMHO). (to the extent that H applies). > > David Singer > Multimedia and Software Standards, Apple Inc. > > David Singer Multimedia and Software Standards, Apple Inc.
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