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RE: action-231, issue-153 requirements on other software that sets DNT headers

From: Shane Wiley <wileys@yahoo-inc.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 15:01:19 -0700
To: David Singer <singer@apple.com>, "public-tracking@w3.org (public-tracking@w3.org)" <public-tracking@w3.org>
Message-ID: <63294A1959410048A33AEE161379C8024F8FDD4F62@SP2-EX07VS02.ds.corp.yahoo.com>

If the user "does nothing" then they are given the express install which is "DNT ON by Default".  So to use your logic, "Do Nothing = DNT On by Default = Non-compliant".

- Shane

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From: David Singer [mailto:singer@apple.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 2:57 PM
To: public-tracking@w3.org (public-tracking@w3.org)
Subject: Re: action-231, issue-153 requirements on other software that sets DNT headers

On Aug 22, 2012, at 14:14 , Tamir Israel <tisrael@cippic.ca> wrote:

> Shane -- can you (and others) please confirm whether MSFT's new proposal, which will prompt users to make a DNT election during Win8 install, is 'representing user's choice' or not? Also please confirm whether this is still a clear case or not?
> http://blogs.technet.com/b/microsoft_on_the_issues/archive/2012/08/07/do-not-track-in-the-windows-8-set-up-experience.aspx
> To me it appeared as though MSFT was now making a good faith effort to bring their IE10 DNT into compliance.

I am a little puzzled, actually, as I take 'default' to mean what happens if you don't do anything.  If it asks every user on install/first-use, then every user is expressing a preference, and there is no 'default'.  The most that there can be is a suggestion, or an initially checked box, suggesting that the user take a certain choice or direction, but it's no longer a 'default' (IMHO).  (to the extent that H applies).

David Singer
Multimedia and Software Standards, Apple Inc.
Received on Wednesday, 22 August 2012 22:02:19 UTC

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