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Re: Proposed First Party definition

From: Clay Webster <clay.webster@cbsinteractive.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 14:07:02 -0400
Message-ID: <CACOLfqfDNy6JoUVct2pSCSTjkEMETRMaLirA+aRb5yAQmMQF6g@mail.gmail.com>
To: Karl Dubost <karld@opera.com>
Cc: Jonathan Mayer <jmayer@stanford.edu>, Shane Wiley <wileys@yahoo-inc.com>, "Amy Colando (LCA)" <acolando@microsoft.com>, Matthias Schunter <mts@zurich.ibm.com>, "public-tracking@w3.org" <public-tracking@w3.org>
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Karl Dubost <karld@opera.com> wrote:

> Le 16 oct. 2011 à 01:35, Jonathan Mayer a écrit :
> > Second, I'm very hesitant to provide a broad "affiliate" carveout.  In
> other privacy debates, affiliate relationships have proven to be sizable
> loopholes.
> plus they are technically impossible to decipher.
> http://www.w3.org/wiki/FirstThirdPartyDetection

There have been a few discussions (published and in the f2f) on technical
approaches to resolve issue.  e.g.- a commonly published file, some response
header metadata, and even a few approaches using DNS.

I agree, there are loopholes with all of those technical approaches.  But
they are technical solutions.  I'd suggest, the best approach is to find one
(or more) technique where it is reasonably easy to be a good actor to
promote adoption -- and a reasonably easy bit-trail for groups to detect
groups exploiting a loophole.


Clay Webster
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