Re: [TalentSignal] Other requirements in JobPostings

Hello all,

So far we have had some discussion that we might add different terms(*) 
to those originally suggested, and some that we might reduce the number 
terms by consolidating Physical and Sensory requirements. I haven't got 
the impression of any strong feelings for either, so I suggest we 
proceed with the four below for the following reasons:

  * It's easy enough to add new terms later
  * It's easier to deal with the consequences of merging terms in the
    light of experience than it is to deal with splitting them
  * Alignment with JDX JobSchema+ is a good thing
  * Separate properties for Physical and Sensory requirements aligns
    well with these being separate categories of ability in ONet
    <https://www.onetonline.org/find/descriptor/browse/Abilities/> [1]
    --another good thing.

Noting these categories in ONet, I also think it is worth adding 
DefinedTerm to the list of acceptable types for relevant properties. 
However, while a defined term can precisely identify the ability 
required it cannot as it stands identify the extent. So with defined 
term you can say that a job requires dynamic strength 
<https://www.onetonline.org/find/descriptor/result/1.A.3.a.3>, but not 
how much.  I think this is something worth discussing with the wider 
schema.org community as I think any solution would not be limited to our 
domain.

I have summarized this in an updated wikipage for this issue 
<https://www.w3.org/community/talent-signal/wiki/Requirements_other_than_competencies_and_credentials> 
[2]. Unless I hear otherwise I will proceed to make a proposal for 
adding these to schema.org.

Best regards, Phil

(If you are DC for the Talent Forward conference tomorrow,  say hello if 
you see me)


* (from Merrilea, to cover travel, shift work, permits, vehicle ownership)

1.https://www.onetonline.org/find/descriptor/browse/Abilities/

2. 
https://www.w3.org/community/talent-signal/wiki/Requirements_other_than_competencies_and_credentials

On 14/10/2019 09:53, Phil Barker wrote:
>
> Hello all, we have four potential properties identified from the 
> analysis of the JDX JobSchema+ 
> <https://www.w3.org/community/talent-signal/wiki/Comparison_of_JDX_JobSchema%2B_with_schema.org>[1] 
> as missing from schema.org that relate to requirements other than 
> those for competencies and credentials. These are
>
>   * Citizenship Requirement "Country of applicant's citizenship"
>   * Physical Requirement "Resource identifying types of physical
>     activity associated with a job"
>   * Security Clearance Requirement "Description of any security
>     clearance requirements for the job"
>   * Sensory Requirement "Resource identifying sensory requirements and
>     levels necessary to function on the job including hearing and vision"
>
> Do you agree that these would be useful additions?  Does anyone have 
> any data or evidence for how common it is to find this type of 
> requirement in job postings?
>
> Might we combine Physical and Sensory? (FWIW, I'm happy to keep them 
> separate)
>
> Would you be happy with them all to take text & URL as values: i.e. 
> provide values as free text or a link to a description. The exception 
> might be schema.org/Country for Citizenship Requirement.
>
> All the best, Phil.
>
>
> 1. 
> https://www.w3.org/community/talent-signal/wiki/Comparison_of_JDX_JobSchema%2B_with_schema.org
>
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CETIS is a co-operative limited liability partnership, registered in 
England number OC399090