Re: [TalentSignal] Other requirements in JobPostings

I wasn't sure, even when I wrote them, whether any rose to the level of
needing their own data element, but I thought I'd throw them out there for
a discussion, which you've already started.

Merrilea

(tiny keyboard, pls excuse typos)

On Thu, Oct 17, 2019, 2:53 AM Phil Barker <phil.barker@pjjk.co.uk> wrote:

> Thanks Merrilea, I had wondered myself about the last of those and agree
> they are all valid. Currently there is no property for them but they could
> be part of the general job description.
>
> I always wonder where the balance should lie between having a specific
> property for each requirement type versus having a generic jobRequirement
> property for everything. Of course there is the compromise of having some
> specific properties and a otherJobRequirement property to catch the rest.
>
> Thoughts anyone?
>
> Phil
> On 16/10/2019 20:07, Merrilea Mayo wrote:
>
> Not sure if the following exist somewhere as non-competency requirements,
> but they do appear commonly in job advertisements:
>
> 1.  Willing to travel x days a month.
>
> 2.  Willing to work weekends/evening shift/day shift/night shift.
>
> 3. Owns own vehicle (common in delivery jobs).  This could be broadened to
> a "has equipment" requirement (in  which case it will also cover situations
> like being expected to provide own tools for repair or housecleaning jobs).
>
> 4.  Has work permit/legally able to work in [country] (similar to
> citizenship but not the same)
>
> Merrilea
>
>
> On 10/16/2019 8:53 AM, Phil Barker wrote:
>
> Thanks Joseph.
>
> I have set up a wikipage to summarize this issue
> <https://www.w3.org/community/talent-signal/wiki/Requirements_other_than_competencies_and_credentials>
> [1]. It lists physical and sensory requirements separately as a starting
> point. I would welcome any other comments, positive or negative, general or
> specific.
>
> Some specific questions / comments:
>
> - if we merge sensory and physical requirements I propose it would be
> named physicalSensoryRequirements
>
> - does anyone have any realistic examples I could use. If not I'll come up
> with some
>
> - is it a valid use case to have citizenship requirements that preclude
> certain countries, e.g. not countries under US sanction? What types of job
> might have a requirement such as US citizens only?
>
> Phil
>
>
> 1.
> https://www.w3.org/community/talent-signal/wiki/Requirements_other_than_competencies_and_credentials
> On 15/10/2019 12:46, Joseph D. Marsh wrote:
>
> Useful?  Yes.  Common?  Probably not.
>
>
>
> And I agree with combining “Physical” and “Sensory”, as the latter is
> really a subset of the former.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> - Joseph
>
>
>
> *From:* Phil Barker <phil.barker@pjjk.co.uk> <phil.barker@pjjk.co.uk>
> *Sent:* Monday, October 14, 2019 9:54 AM
> *To:* public-talent-signal@w3.org
> *Subject:* [TalentSignal] Other requirements in JobPostings
>
> Hello all, we have four potential properties identified from the analysis
> of the JDX JobSchema+
> <https://www.w3.org/community/talent-signal/wiki/Comparison_of_JDX_JobSchema%2B_with_schema.org>[1]
> as missing from schema.org that relate to requirements other than those
> for competencies and credentials. These are
>
>    - Citizenship Requirement "Country of applicant's citizenship"
>    - Physical Requirement "Resource identifying types of physical
>    activity associated with a job"
>    - Security Clearance Requirement "Description of any security
>    clearance requirements for the job"
>    - Sensory Requirement "Resource identifying sensory requirements and
>    levels necessary to function on the job including hearing and vision"
>
> Do you agree that these would be useful additions?  Does anyone have any
> data or evidence for how common it is to find this type of requirement in
> job postings?
>
> Might we combine Physical and Sensory? (FWIW, I'm happy to keep them
> separate)
>
> Would you be happy with them all to take text & URL as values: i.e.
> provide values as free text or a link to a description. The exception might
> be schema.org/Country for Citizenship Requirement.
>
> All the best, Phil.
>
> 1.
> https://www.w3.org/community/talent-signal/wiki/Comparison_of_JDX_JobSchema%2B_with_schema.org
>
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