Re: [TalentSignal] Other requirements in JobPostings

Thanks Merrilea, I had wondered myself about the last of those and agree 
they are all valid. Currently there is no property for them but they 
could be part of the general job description.

I always wonder where the balance should lie between having a specific 
property for each requirement type versus having a generic 
jobRequirement property for everything. Of course there is the 
compromise of having some specific properties and a otherJobRequirement 
property to catch the rest.

Thoughts anyone?

Phil

On 16/10/2019 20:07, Merrilea Mayo wrote:
>
> Not sure if the following exist somewhere as non-competency 
> requirements, but they do appear commonly in job advertisements:
>
> 1.  Willing to travel x days a month.
>
> 2.  Willing to work weekends/evening shift/day shift/night shift.
>
> 3. Owns own vehicle (common in delivery jobs).  This could be 
> broadened to a "has equipment" requirement (in  which case it will 
> also cover situations like being expected to provide own tools for 
> repair or housecleaning jobs).
>
> 4.  Has work permit/legally able to work in [country] (similar to 
> citizenship but not the same)
>
> Merrilea
>
>
> On 10/16/2019 8:53 AM, Phil Barker wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Joseph.
>>
>> I have set up a wikipage to summarize this issue 
>> <https://www.w3.org/community/talent-signal/wiki/Requirements_other_than_competencies_and_credentials> 
>> [1]. It lists physical and sensory requirements separately as a 
>> starting point. I would welcome any other comments, positive or 
>> negative, general or specific.
>>
>> Some specific questions / comments:
>>
>> - if we merge sensory and physical requirements I propose it would be 
>> named physicalSensoryRequirements
>>
>> - does anyone have any realistic examples I could use. If not I'll 
>> come up with some
>>
>> - is it a valid use case to have citizenship requirements that 
>> preclude certain countries, e.g. not countries under US sanction? 
>> What types of job might have a requirement such as US citizens only?
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>
>> 1.https://www.w3.org/community/talent-signal/wiki/Requirements_other_than_competencies_and_credentials
>>
>> On 15/10/2019 12:46, Joseph D. Marsh wrote:
>>>
>>> Useful? Yes.  Common?  Probably not.
>>>
>>> And I agree with combining “Physical” and “Sensory”, as the latter 
>>> is really a subset of the former.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> - Joseph
>>>
>>> *From:*Phil Barker <phil.barker@pjjk.co.uk>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 14, 2019 9:54 AM
>>> *To:* public-talent-signal@w3.org
>>> *Subject:* [TalentSignal] Other requirements in JobPostings
>>>
>>> Hello all, we have four potential properties identified from the 
>>> analysis of the JDX JobSchema+ 
>>> <https://www.w3.org/community/talent-signal/wiki/Comparison_of_JDX_JobSchema%2B_with_schema.org>[1] 
>>> as missing from schema.org that relate to requirements other than 
>>> those for competencies and credentials. These are
>>>
>>>   * Citizenship Requirement "Country of applicant's citizenship"
>>>   * Physical Requirement "Resource identifying types of physical
>>>     activity associated with a job"
>>>   * Security Clearance Requirement "Description of any security
>>>     clearance requirements for the job"
>>>   * Sensory Requirement "Resource identifying sensory requirements
>>>     and levels necessary to function on the job including hearing
>>>     and vision"
>>>
>>> Do you agree that these would be useful additions?  Does anyone have 
>>> any data or evidence for how common it is to find this type of 
>>> requirement in job postings?
>>>
>>> Might we combine Physical and Sensory? (FWIW, I'm happy to keep them 
>>> separate)
>>>
>>> Would you be happy with them all to take text & URL as values: i.e. 
>>> provide values as free text or a link to a description. The 
>>> exception might be schema.org/Country for Citizenship Requirement.
>>>
>>> All the best, Phil.
>>>
>>> 1. 
>>> https://www.w3.org/community/talent-signal/wiki/Comparison_of_JDX_JobSchema%2B_with_schema.org
>>>
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CETIS LLP <https://www.cetis.org.uk>: a cooperative consultancy for 
innovation in education technology.
PJJK Limited <https://www.pjjk.co.uk>: technology to enhance learning; 
information systems for education.

CETIS is a co-operative limited liability partnership, registered in 
England number OC399090
PJJK Limited is registered in Scotland as a private limited company, 
number SC569282.