Re: [TalentSignal] Re: U.S. Chamber of Commerce Foundation Job Data Exchange

The comparison is super helpful.  Nice to have this in one place and so 
easy to read.

Merrilea

On 8/13/2019 1:32 PM, Phil Barker wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I have looked through the column comparing JDX JobSchema+ with what is 
> in schema.org and refactored it slightly leading on what is and is not 
> in schema.org, see Comparison of JDX JobSchema+ with schema.org 
> <https://www.w3.org/community/talent-signal/wiki/Comparison_of_JDX_JobSchema%2B_with_schema.org> 
> [1] on the Talent Signal wiki.
>
> I have also added relevant items to our list of issues to be 
> considered 
> <https://www.w3.org/community/talent-signal/wiki/Issues,_use_cases_and_requirements> 
> [2].
>
> All comments welcome, either feedback on JDX JobSchema+ or thoughts on 
> the issues raised.
>
> Regards, Phil.
>
> 1. 
> https://www.w3.org/community/talent-signal/wiki/Comparison_of_JDX_JobSchema%2B_with_schema.org
> 2. 
> https://www.w3.org/community/talent-signal/wiki/Issues,_use_cases_and_requirements 
>
>
> On 25/07/2019 15:50, Phil Barker wrote:
>>
>> Joshua, thank you very much for sharing this with the group.
>>
>> I know the amount of work that is going in to the JDX project [1] and 
>> recognize that this represents a significant application of 
>> schema.org (expanded through reference to HR Open and analysis of use 
>> cases) for signaling information about hiring requirements.
>>
>> I would like to direct people's attention to the column in the main 
>> table headed "comparison to schema.org". I propose that *this 
>> information should factor highly in our prioritization of what 
>> specific issues this group addresses***as it represents strong 
>> feedback on where the existing terms in schema.org needed to be 
>> refined or supplemented in order to meet talent signaling use cases. 
>> This is not to say that I think we should just copy every change 
>> indicated by this column, there will be some which are specific to 
>> the JDX and out of scope for schema.org, and there may be cases where 
>> input from this community improves on what JDX have done so far.
>>
>> If the group agrees, I will edit our existing list of issues and use 
>> case requirements [2 
>> <https://www.w3.org/community/talent-signal/wiki/Issues,_use_cases_and_requirements>] 
>> to include the information from that column.
>>
>> So that this document and other relevant work from elsewhere doesn't 
>> get buried in our email archive, I have added a page to the wiki on 
>> existing and current relevant work [3 
>> <https://www.w3.org/community/talent-signal/wiki/Existing_and_current_relevant_work>] 
>> with a link.
>>
>> Best regards from a warm and sunny Scotland.
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>
>> 1. I'll remind you all here of my disclosure that I am receiving 
>> funding from the US CCF for my work on this group and am also a 
>> member of the JDX Data Working Group.
>>
>> 2. 
>> https://www.w3.org/community/talent-signal/wiki/Issues,_use_cases_and_requirements
>>
>> 3. 
>> https://www.w3.org/community/talent-signal/wiki/Existing_and_current_relevant_work
>>
>> On 24/07/2019 19:57, Westfall, Joshua wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Talent Marketplace Signaling Group,
>>>
>>> The U.S. Chamber of Commerce Foundation has enjoyed being a part of 
>>> this community group and the great discussion around the JobPosting 
>>> Schema. Therefore, in partnership with HR Open Standards, members of 
>>> our Job Data Exchange (JDX) Advisory Committee 
>>> <https://www.uschamberfoundation.org/jdx/advisory-board>, and ideas 
>>> generated from this group we drafted a few property extensions and 
>>> definitions to build off of the current JobPosting Schema (see the 
>>> comparison column to the far right of the chart). We plan to pilot 
>>> test these ideas that we are calling the “JDX JobSchema+” with 17 
>>> employer partners 
>>> <https://www.uschamberfoundation.org/jdx/pilot-partners> over the 
>>> next two months. The pilot test will conclude in October with an 
>>> independent evaluation of the JDX JobSchema+ from both the 
>>> demand-side (i.e., employers) and supply-side (i.e., education, 
>>> training and credentialing providers, students and workers) of the 
>>> talent pipeline.
>>>
>>> We look forward to sharing our findings with the TMS Community Group 
>>> later this year. In the meantime, the JDX JobSchema+ proposal 
>>> (attached) is open for public feedback on our JDX webpage 
>>> <https://www.uschamberfoundation.org/jdx/job-schema> and depending 
>>> on our findings and this group’s feedback, maybe a few of these 
>>> properties can be considered for Schema.org.
>>>
>>> I look forward to hearing from you and please let me know if you 
>>> have any questions or would like to discuss JDX pilot of the JDX 
>>> JobSchema+ in more detail.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> *Joshua Westfall*
>>>
>>> Senior Manager, Policy & Programs
>>>
>>> U.S. Chamber of Commerce Foundation
>>>
>>> Center for Education and Workforce
>>>
>>> *O:*202.463.5843
>>>
>>> *C:*202.845.3820
>>>
>>> usccf-education-workforce web logo 
>>> <http://www.uschamberfoundation.org/center-education-and-workforce>
>>>
>>> uschamberfoundation.org/CEW 
>>> <http://www.uschamberfoundation.org/center-education-and-workforce>
>>>
>>> http://image.exct.net/lib/fef01278736102/m/1/USCCFB.gif 
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/USCCFeducation>http://image.exct.net/lib/fef01278736102/m/1/USCCTwitter.gif 
>>> <https://twitter.com/usccfeducation>linkedin 
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/u-s-chamber-of-commerce-foundation>
>>>
>> -- 
>>
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> -- 
>
> Phil Barker <http://people.pjjk.net/phil>. http://people.pjjk.net/phil
> CETIS LLP <https://www.cetis.org.uk>: a cooperative consultancy for 
> innovation in education technology.
> PJJK Limited <https://www.pjjk.co.uk>: technology to enhance learning; 
> information systems for education.
>
> CETIS is a co-operative limited liability partnership, registered in 
> England number OC399090
> PJJK Limited is registered in Scotland as a private limited company, 
> number SC569282.
>
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