Re: Let's turn aspiration into fact?

Fair. Here's my pitch:

The year is 2026. The Fediverse is looser, and more fluid than it is today.
Rather than being tethered to specific instances, users can transition
freely, from one space to another.

User migration works similarly to signing in to an instance with an app. An
old account is authenticated against the new account, and the identity is
verified.

From there, the person can sign in from either space, treating their other
Connected Actors as a relay that optionally announces posts from other
accounts.

Moving is as simple as declaring one Connected Actor as the primary one,
but the user can also safely close those other accounts if they want.
Changing the Primary Actor updates references from replies, mentions,
comments, and search results, to the new account in question.

As part of this process, a user can easily update the Author field of all
their old posts, or may alternatively pick and choose what things to bring
with them. The process is largely invisible to people, they just one day
notice that their friend's handle is different.

As far as user data is concerned, that's where things get really
interesting. A user's data isn't just a bunch of notes, or status updates,
or even one type of content. It's pictures, and videos, and forum threads,
and private group chats. That data all lives in their main server, they
just use a wide variety of clients to interact with all of that in
different ways and forms.

On Thu, Feb 8, 2024, 17:48 Johannes Ernst <johannes.ernst@gmail.com> wrote:

> Note all I meant to start a conversation about a vision of what we want to
> accomplish … thanks for all the responses, many of which are very
> interesting, but basically none respond to the vision part!
>
> The basic question is: what do we want the world look like once we are
> done here? (If we ever are. Short of that, what’s the vision on a
> 3-to-5-year horizon?)
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Johannes.
>
> On Feb 8, 2024, at 13:28, Aaron Gray <aaronngray@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> 34Min in Eugen talks about this :-
>
> https://softwareengineeringdaily.com/2024/01/31/mastodon-with-eugen-rochko/
>
>
> Issue here :-
>
> https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/19902
>
> https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/23522
>
> Documentation here :-
>
> https://docs.joinmastodon.org/user/moving/
>
> Theres nothing like real world experience ;)
>
> Aaron
>
> On Wed, 7 Feb 2024 at 17:57, Johannes Ernst <johannes.ernst@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> According to David Pierce at The Verge in a piece
>> <https://www.theverge.com/24063290/fediverse-explained-activitypub-social-media-open-protocol> published
>> today, the Fediverse is:
>>
>> … an interconnected social platform ecosystem based on an open protocol
>> called ActivityPub, which allows you to port your content, data, and
>> follower graph between networks.
>>
>>
>> He continues:
>>
>> If you wanted to leave one platform for another, you could bring all your
>> content, all your followers, all your everything with you.
>>
>>
>> This is aspirational compared to the state of implementation today, but a
>> very reasonable aspiration IMHO. I would be prepared to argue that this
>> aspiration — and a few other bit and pieces he isn’t mentioning — are
>> essential to become real in order to deliver on the promise that people
>> already think we are making. (Anecdotally I have found that many people
>> believe this, not just David)
>>
>> What are our aspirations in SWICG here, specifically with respect to
>> future standards work?
>>
>> It’s very important that we document what works today, I appreciate the
>> people who are stepping up right now, and don’t want to distract from that.
>>
>> But once we have captured the present, where are we going? As a straw
>> proposal, I propose that we adopt the two above sentences from today’s
>> Verge piece as a vision, e.g. as “We develop the standards (and whatever
>> else is necessary) that make easily possible … (see above)”.
>>
>> 1. Does this vision sound reasonable to you?
>> 2. How can this very straw-y proposal be improved?
>>
>> P.S. Yes, I understand that we won’t (want to) squeeze Lemmy into
>> Mastodon. So add the qualifier: within reason or such.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Johannes.
>>
>> Johannes Ernst
>>
>> Fediforum <https://fediforum.org/>
>> Dazzle Labs <https://dazzlelabs.net/>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Aaron Gray - @AaronNGray@fosstodon.org
>
> Independent Open Source Software Engineer, Computer Language Researcher,
> Information Theorist, and Computer Scientist.
>
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