Re: Let's turn aspiration into fact?

Note all I meant to start a conversation about a vision of what we want to accomplish … thanks for all the responses, many of which are very interesting, but basically none respond to the vision part!

The basic question is: what do we want the world look like once we are done here? (If we ever are. Short of that, what’s the vision on a 3-to-5-year horizon?)

Cheers,



Johannes.

> On Feb 8, 2024, at 13:28, Aaron Gray <aaronngray@gmail.com> wrote:
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> 34Min in Eugen talks about this :-
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> https://softwareengineeringdaily.com/2024/01/31/mastodon-with-eugen-rochko/ 
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> Issue here :-
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> https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/19902
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> https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/23522
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> Documentation here :-
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> https://docs.joinmastodon.org/user/moving/
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> Theres nothing like real world experience ;)
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> Aaron
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> On Wed, 7 Feb 2024 at 17:57, Johannes Ernst <johannes.ernst@gmail.com <mailto:johannes.ernst@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> According to David Pierce at The Verge in a piece <https://www.theverge.com/24063290/fediverse-explained-activitypub-social-media-open-protocol> published today, the Fediverse is:
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>>> … an interconnected social platform ecosystem based on an open protocol called ActivityPub, which allows you to port your content, data, and follower graph between networks. 
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>> He continues:
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>>> If you wanted to leave one platform for another, you could bring all your content, all your followers, all your everything with you.
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>> This is aspirational compared to the state of implementation today, but a very reasonable aspiration IMHO. I would be prepared to argue that this aspiration — and a few other bit and pieces he isn’t mentioning — are essential to become real in order to deliver on the promise that people already think we are making. (Anecdotally I have found that many people believe this, not just David)
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>> What are our aspirations in SWICG here, specifically with respect to future standards work?
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>> It’s very important that we document what works today, I appreciate the people who are stepping up right now, and don’t want to distract from that.
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>> But once we have captured the present, where are we going? As a straw proposal, I propose that we adopt the two above sentences from today’s Verge piece as a vision, e.g. as “We develop the standards (and whatever else is necessary) that make easily possible … (see above)”.
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>> 1. Does this vision sound reasonable to you?
>> 2. How can this very straw-y proposal be improved?
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>> P.S. Yes, I understand that we won’t (want to) squeeze Lemmy into Mastodon. So add the qualifier: within reason or such.
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>> Cheers,
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>> Johannes.
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>> Johannes Ernst
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>> Fediforum <https://fediforum.org/>
>> Dazzle Labs <https://dazzlelabs.net/> 
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