Re: IndieWeb Technologies in SWICG

st 28. 6. 2023 v 19:52 odesílatel James <jamesg@jamesg.blog> napsal:

> Thank you for such an articulate and detailed repsonse, Evan!
>
> > So, in the most narrow sense, this is a good group for: our six
> specifications, extensions to them, and maybe some other parts of the
> IndieWeb suite.
>
> Thank you for clarifying!
>
> I know there has been a discussion going on with regard to chairs for the
> Social CG [^1]:
>
> >  3. Chairs. Dmitri has been doing great work as the chair for the
> SocialCG, but we feel like having more active chairs as backup for his work
> would be healthy for the group, and we think that holding co-chair election
> (or selection) in the near future would be helpful.
>
> I am interested in volunteering to co-chair the group, with a particular
> focus on Micropub, Webmention, and WebSub, and to offer support in all
> other areas in which I can be helpful.
>
> Over the last two years, I have published open-source implementations of
> the Micropub, Webmention, and WebSub specifications, and a library of
> utilities that includes helper methods for working with Webmention [^2]. (I
> have also implemented IndieAuth and Microsub, and discussed and/or
> implemented extensions to Webmention like Vouch, but those are incubated
> and maintained by the IndieWeb community.)
>
> I am keen to help maintain, and advance these standards, and help others
> do the same: the more implementers we have, the more information we have to
> help us advance our social web ideas and build robust technologies.
>
> More generally, I am passionate about advancing the web platform. [^3]
>
> My interest is continent on there being a co-chair (Dimitri) with whom I
> can work and who I can assist with the responsibilities associated with the
> role.
>

Thank you for volunteering!

+1 from me, if you have time

Perhaps you could replace Aaron.  Though if you are in contact with the
indieweb community, perhaps run it past them first (aaron and tantek), as a
means of courtesy


>
> [1] In reply to
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swicg/2023Jun/0017.html#options3
> .
> [2] https://github.com/capjamesg/indieweb-utils
> [3] https://jamesg.blog/indieweb/
>
> James
>
> James
>
> ------- Original Message -------
> On Tuesday, June 27th, 2023 at 22:47, Evan Prodromou <evan@prodromou.name>
> wrote:
>
> Great question!
>
> So, here’s what the description of the SocialCG says:
>
>
> *The SocialCG provides space to collaborate and coordinate for
> implementors who are building on any of the specifications published by the
> Social Web WG <https://www.w3.org/TR/social-web-protocols/>, and related
> technologies. It is also a place to incubate new proposals which build on
> or complement the Social Web WG recommendations.*
>
> That, to me, sounds like our scope is:
>
>
>    - any of the six specs from the SocialWG (ActivityPub, Activity
>    Streams 2.0, Linked Data Notifications, Micropub, WebMention, WebSub)
>    - Closely related technologies - *maybe* underlying technologies that
>    like HTTP Signatures, JSON-LD or OAuth 2.0 for the AP/AS2 stack, SOLID more
>    generally, and the IndieWeb suite more generally
>    - Extensions to any of these technologies
>
>
> I think there’s some ambiguity about stacks that do social networking that
> aren’t derived from these stacks, like Nostr or BlueSky. My feeling is
> that, since there are other places to talk about those projects, and the
> primary authors are not participants here, it doesn’t make sense for us to
> work on them as a group.
>
> For HTTP Signatures and OAuth 2.0, primary discussion should probably be
> at the IETF or other venues.
>
> For JSON-LD, there’s a group at the W3C for it.
>
> I think *most* SOLID work should happen in the SOLID CG, with maybe
> interop discussion happening here.
>
> I think the IndieWeb community has a pretty good infrastructure for
> discussion, but if this is the best place for discussion of related specs,
> so be it!
>
> So, in the most narrow sense, this is a good group for: our six
> specifications, extensions to them, and maybe some other parts of the
> IndieWeb suite.
>
> I also think that, as a gut check, this is the work the world expects us
> to do.
>
> Evan
>
>
> On Jun 27, 2023, at 5:09 PM, James <jamesg@jamesg.blog> wrote:
>
> Hello there,
>
> I am James (jamesg.blog). Long time social web enthusiast, first time
> emailer.
>
> I have been following the discussions on the chair discussions for the
> community and I was curious to start opening more discussions into a
> broader range of social web technologies. I am excited and invigorated by
> the work done to support ActivityPub, particularly given its prominence in
> the decentralised social web ecosystem. With that said, I am equally
> excited by approaches new and old: Webmentions, Bluesky, IndieAuth, and
> more.
>
> I was curious to learn more about for whom the group is building, to
> assess ways in which I could potentially contribute. The Working Group had
> a rich history in incubating a range of technologies, from ActivityPub to
> Post Type Discovery to Webmention, all serving real needs. My expertise is
> more on the "IndieWeb" technologies incubated, but I find that is an
> unhelpful distinction. All the work the group does is part of the same
> goal: to discuss, incubate, implement, and document standards that enable
> richer social interactions on the web platform.
>
> Ultimately, I am interested in contributing to work that delivers upon the
> needs of end users and helps to create a more decentralized web.
>
>
> Thanks,
> James<publickey - jamesg@jamesg.blog - 0xC06B40B5.asc>
>
>
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