Re: The OWL file

Will note for the record that I don't think the OWL document ever got
published at "the namespace" as Appendix A indicates though:

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But it does appear to be published on
https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams-owl

I'm not aware of any implementers who might be using this (as Ben
mentioned, go-fed maintains its own because the official file is so
incomplete) but I agree that if it's referenced in the spec we probably do
have a responsibility to do something about it.

On Fri, Dec 8, 2023 at 4:53 PM Evan Prodromou <evan@prodromou.name> wrote:

> Well, shucks. I've got bad news. It *is* actually part of the spec in a
> way, shape, and/or form.
>
> Appendix A of the Activity Vocabulary refers to it as a non-normative
> definition:
>
>
> https://www.w3.org/TR/activitystreams-vocabulary/#non-normative-ontology-definition
>
> I can't believe I forgot this section was there.
>
> I think as long as we have this section we have some responsibility to
> keep the file up to date.
>
> Evan
>
> On 2023-12-08 12:12 p.m., nightpool wrote:
>
> I agree with all of the points mentioned here, as I've said many times on
> GitHub, the OWL should be maintained/improved by the community of users
> that are utilizing it, it shouldn't be blocked on Editor or CG approval to
> get changes made. (But also, conversely, it shouldn't continue to have the
> "imprimatur" of an official document just because it happens to have been
> included in the repo, since it's not part of the spec in any way shape or
> form)
>
> On Fri, Dec 8, 2023, 10:42 AM Evan Prodromou <evan@prodromou.name> wrote:
>
>> I should have explained: OWL is the Web Ontology Language.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_Ontology_Language
>>
>> Evan
>>
>> On 2023-12-08 11:38 a.m., Evan Prodromou wrote:
>> > The original development file for AS2 was an OWL file.
>> >
>> > I don't think it was ever edited after James Snell created the first
>> > JSON-LD context file.
>> >
>> > But it's been in the Activity Streams 2.0 repository on GitHub since
>> > it was created.
>> >
>> > We get occasional requests to make changes to it to bring it into line
>> > with the JSON-LD context doc. Some LinkedData developers seem to
>> > prefer using it.
>> >
>> > We had a new issue filed this week about it, and on the issue triage
>> > call we came up with a novel solution: move the file to its own
>> > repository in the SWICG namespace, and let people who are interested
>> > in using and maintaining it work on the project.
>> >
>> > The new repository is here:
>> >
>> > https://github.com/swicg/activitystreams2-owl
>> >
>> > Big appreciation to Emelia Smith for getting the process rolling.
>> > We've already had one PR applied.
>> >
>> > I had removed the file from the w3c/activitystreams repo, but Ben
>> > Goering pointed out that it probably needed more consensus and a
>> > discussion here.
>> >
>> > So, let's discuss!
>> >
>> > I'd love to see this unofficial file maintained and updated. I think
>> > moving it to a repo where people in the LD community can maintain it
>> > is a great solution.
>> >
>> > Evan
>> >
>> >
>>
>>