- From: Danny Ayers <danny.ayers@gmail.com>
- Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 19:32:26 +0100
- To: "W3C SWEO IG" <public-sweo-ig@w3.org>
[cc'ing sweo for future ref, a comment added] On 18/03/07, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com> wrote: > Nova Spivack wrote: > > > > Hey guys – I'm supposed to be speaking about the semweb on a panel > > moderated by none other than Clay Shirky (who hates the semweb and > > generally misrepresents it) on Monday (at the Highlands Forum). > > > > I was wondering --- are there any stats I can cite about the semweb > > that will help to head of his criticisms? > > > > - Number of SPARQL endpoints, or growth of them? > > > > - Growth of semweb? Any metrics you know of? > > > > Anything else you think I might cite? > > > Nova, > > For some stats see: http://pingethesemanticweb.com . > > Also remember that RDF Tax is diminishing by the second. By this I mean > most things on the web can act as RDF data sources by way of only the > fly transformation (my blog posts demonstrate this repeatedly). Absolutely. Hopefully the FUDish "RDF Tax" phrase has now been pretty well undermined. GRDDL offers a spec for one approach. I'm not sure of the best wording here, but I think it's reasonably fair to say that any data anyone puts on the Web is now part of the Semantic Web - feeds, microformats, JSON, custom XML etc. > Clay's Achilles heel is his misconception that folksonomies and W3C > ontologies are mutually exclusive. If you join del.icio.us and flickr > (for instance) without and RDF tax on the side of either data source, > then you neutralize his point because: The Inner Joins and Out Joins of > these data sources ultimately show where folksonomies stop and where > ontologies start as part of a greater good courtesy of the Semantic Web :-) > > Also watch: http://videolectures.net/iswc06_gruber_wswms/ > > Kingsley > > > > Clay generally attacks the semweb on the grounds that social tagging > > is better than inferencing. Duh. That's a completely made-up conflict > > since the semweb is a natural fit with tagging, and secondly since the > > semweb does not only focused on inferencing. In any case, the question > > is how to deal with him. > > > > N > > > > ***** PLEASE NOTE:** Radar Networks has moved to a larger office: New > > contact info below... > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Nova Spivack, CEO > > > > Radar Networks > > > > 410 Townsend, Suite 150 > > > > San Francisco, CA 94107 > > > > Biz: www.radarnetworks.com <http://www.radarnetworks.com> > > > > Blog: www.mindingtheplanet.net <http://www.mindingtheplanet.net> > > > > Main Office: 415 848 7500 > > > > Direct Line: 415 848 7501 > > > > Mobile: 917.972.9721 > > > > Main fax: 415 848 7520 > > > > Private e-fax: 646-349-1242 > > > > Skype: novaspivack > > > > nova@radarnetworks.com <mailto:nova@radarnetworks.com> > > > > ----------------------------------- > > > > CONFIDENTIAL > > > > (c) Copyright 2006, all right reserved. > > > > No contractual agreement is implied > > > > or expressed by the contents of this > > > > message. > > > > > -- > > > Regards, > > Kingsley Idehen Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen > President & CEO > OpenLink Software Web: http://www.openlinksw.com > > > > > -- http://dannyayers.com -- http://dannyayers.com
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