- From: Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>
- Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:42:08 +0100
- To: SWD WG <public-swd-wg@w3.org>
Dear all, Trying to decompose issues, as Sean requested. I will actually not try to decompose the discussion in [1] because it is a whole about ISSUE-71 and ISSUE-74. Shortly, [1] tries to show that mapping relationships and standard (paradigmatic) relationships are different. They result from different activities, and are situated on a different level with respect to authority and concept scheme design. Assuming this understanding is correct, this I propose the following resolution for ISSUE-71: RESOLUTION: The vocabulary for mapping links is parallel to the vocabulary for (paradigmatic) semantic relationships. It includes a skos:broadMatch, skos:narrowMatch and skos:relatedMatch which mirror skos:broader, skos:narrower and skos:related. Antoine [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Feb/0062.html > > Dear all, > > I propose to OPEN ISSUE-71 ParallelMappingVocabulary [1] and consider > CLOSEing it by the following proposal: > > RESOLUTION: The vocabulary for mapping links is parallel to the > vocabulary for (paradigmatic) semantic relationships. It includes a > skos:broadMatch, skos:narrowMatch and skos:relatedMatch which mirror > skos:broader, skos:narrower and skos:related. > > This I think renders well the different discussions that took place on > the SKOS and SWD list, as well as previous mapping vocabulary > proposals, such as [2], which inspired I guess the design of the > former SKOS mapping vocabulary. > ISome more details: the text of [3] which we adopted as a resolution > for ISSUE-39 Conceptual mapping link [4,5] includes the following > >> Rather, it assumes that mapping links, as a parallel vocabulary to >> the SKOS semantic relations (see discussion >> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-esw-thes/2007Dec/0033.html>), >> should somehow "inherit" the semantics of these relations. With the >> fundamental difference that mapping does not come with the same >> confidence and authority status than established semantic relations. >> For instance, a mapping statement may not be endorsed by the >> creator(s) of the concepts that are mapped. > > This goes against ISSUE-71 [1] proposing the following option as an > possible alternative to keeping the parallel vocabulary for mapping: > >> use skos:broader, skos:narrower and skos:related for >> mapping, providing guidance > > I strongly disagree with it! It was precisely the reaction *against* > using skos:broader/related/narrower for mapping which made me go for > using parallel mapping vocabulary [3] (I was against it at the > begining). I don't want us to lose time having again the same discussion! > > Notice that one of the reason for refusing to use the paradimatic > broader/narrower/related also for mapping is linked to fundamental > considerations related to norm and authority. > On the one hand, creating paradigmatic relationships such as > skos:broader statement results from the core activity of KOS design, > which is supposed to imply e.g. certain soundness properties for the > resulting semantic network. Mapping is a different activity, where the > aim is not to create a new coherent KOS but to bridge two KOS with > relationships that may be of different qualitative and authoritative > level. > My understanding is that the semantic commitment (with respect to the > original intended meaning of the linked concepts) is much stronger > when skos:broader than when using skos:broadMatch. > I would consider that this typically happens because a mapping link > between two schemes can be motivated by an application that has > requirements which are completely different from each of the ones that > guided the design of each mapped scheme. > > This is completely different from the assumption Alistair presents in > [6]: > >> the current SKOS Reference WD assumes that the main reason for having >> a "parallel" vocabularies for broader/narrower/related is to provide >> a convenient mechanism for distinguishing links between concepts >> within the *same* scheme from links between concepts in *different* >> schemes. > > > This is actually why in the Primer [7] we have allowed for the use of > skos:broader *between* concept schemes and the use of skos:broadMatch > *within* concept schemes. Because these relations are of different > (epistemological??) level! > > Following this discussion, I would therefore make the following > proposal to OPEN ISSUE-74 MappingPropertyConventions and consider to > CLOSE it with the following proposal: > > RESOLUTION: Even though it is acknowledged that SKOS semantic relation > properties will, in most applications, link conceptual resources that > stand within a same scheme, nothing in the SKOS model prevents their > use for concepts from different schemes. Similarly, even though it is > acknowledged that SKOS mapping relation properties will, in most > applications, link conceptual resources coming from different concept > schemes, nothing in the SKOS model prevents their use for concepts > that stand within a same scheme. > > Best, > > Antoine > > > [1] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/71 > [2] http://jodi.tamu.edu/Articles/v01/i08/Doerr/ > [3] > http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SkosDesign/ConceptualMapping/ProposalTwo?action=recall&rev=5 > > [4] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/39 > [5] http://www.w3.org/2007/12/18-swd-minutes#item02 > [7] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SKOS/DraftPrimer >> >> Dear all, >> >> I'm continuing to forward contributions from Alistair, in relation to >> [1] and to a mail that I will send next. >> Antoine >> >> [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Feb/0060.html >> >> ---- >> [ISSUE-74] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/74 >> MappingPropertyConventions (RAISED) >> [ISSUE-71] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/71 >> ParallelMappingVocabulary (RAISED) >> >> Quick fix? No. >> >> [ISSUE-74] asks, what are the usage conventions for SKOS mapping >> properties and SKOS semantic relation properties? [ISSUE-71] asks, do we >> need the properties skos:broadMatch, skos:narrowMatch and >> skos:relatedMatch at all? >> >> These two issues go right to the heart of recommended usage for SKOS >> semantic relation and mapping properties. They are intimately related, >> as usage conventions for mapping properties depend on vocabulary >> available, and vice versa. I suggest we open these ASAP, to give time >> for preparation and due consideration of alternatives. >> >> To give a little background, the current SKOS Reference WD assumes that >> the main reason for having a "parallel" vocabularies for >> broader/narrower/related is to provide a convenient mechanism for >> distinguishing links between concepts within the *same* scheme from >> links between concepts in *different* schemes. This utility obviously >> depends on certain usage conventions being followed, i.e. that >> skos:broader, skos:narrower and skos:related are *only* used to link >> concepts in the same scheme, and that skos:broadMatch, skos:narrowMatch >> and skos:relatedMatch are *only* used to link concepts in different >> schemes. To restate the point, if these usage conventions aren't >> followed, then the main raison d'etre for skos:broadMatch, >> skos:narrowMatch and skos:relatedMatch falls apart. >> >> Note that [ISSUE-73] and [ISSUE-75] are both dependent on [ISSUE-71]. >> [ISSUE-73] asks, which other properties is skos:exactMatch disjoint >> with? [ISSUE-75] asks, which other properties can be involved in >> property chain inclusions with skos:exactMatch? Both of these questions >> depend on the SKOS vocabulary recommended for mapping. >> >> Note also that [ISSUE-83] is closely related to [ISSUE-71] and >> [ISSUE-74], because the proposed inference pattern depends on usage >> conventions which are not yet established. However, I suggest we >> consider [ISSUE-83] separately as a lower priority, because the proposed >> inference pattern can probably not be supported, regardless of our >> decision on [ISSUE-74]. >> >> [ISSUE-73] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/73 >> [ISSUE-75] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/75 >> [ISSUE-83] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/83 >> >> > > >
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