- From: Hausenblas, Michael <michael.hausenblas@joanneum.at>
- Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:11:12 +0200
- To: <public-swd-wg@w3.org>
The record of yesterday's SWD telecon is available at
http://www.w3.org/2007/09/04-swd-minutes.html
Two open issues, though:
@Elisa:
Can you please check your first sentence in
5. VOCABULARY MANAGEMENT - I did not get the name right, I fear.
@Tom:
As well in 5. VOCABULARY MANAGEMENT you said something like
'TAG and ??? reviewed Sauermann, "Cool URIs for the Semantic Web"'
I did not catch who else reviewed this. Can you sort this out, please?
Topics
1. ADMIN
2. SKOS
3. RDFa
4. RECIPES
5. VOCABULARY MANAGEMENT
Summary of Action Items:
[NEW] ACTION: Elisa to update the VocabMgt agenda in the F2F [recorded
in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/04-swd-minutes.html#action13]
[NEW] ACTION: Ralph update RDFa agendum for Amsterdam f2f after
discussion with RDFa TF [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2007/09/04-swd-minutes.html#action08]
[NEW] ACTION: Tom to paste proposed solution to ISSUE-31 into F2F agenda
[recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/04-swd-minutes.html#action06]
[PENDING] ACTION: Alistair to state the difference between the two
flavours of the SimpleExtension proposal for issue 26 [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-swd-minutes.html#action05]
[PENDING] ACTION: Elisa to ask for feedback on VM draft [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2007/08/21-swd-minutes.html#action06]
[PENDING] ACTION: Guus to email a proposal to the list about the issue
of containment [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2007/07/24-swd-minutes.html#action01]
[PENDING] ACTION: Guus to move ISSUE-26 forward [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2007/07/03-swd-minutes.html#action04]
[PENDING] ACTION: Guus to post user experience reports for ISSUE-26
[recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/03-swd-minutes.html#action05]
[PENDING] ACTION: Guus to update the f2f agenda [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-swd-minutes.html#action07]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ralph propose resolution to Recipe issue 1.3 [recorded
in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-swd-minutes.html#action09]
[DONE] ACTION: Ben to bring up the HTML WG review of RDFa syntax with
Steven [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-swd-minutes.html#action01]
[DONE] ACTION: Diego to prepare a f2f agenda topic for recipes [recorded
in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-swd-minutes.html#action08]
[DONE] ACTION: Vit to prepare WG agenda for VM by 11 September [recorded
in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-swd-minutes.html#action10]
Full text copy follows below.
Cheers,
Michael
________________________________________________________________________
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Semantic Web Deployment Working Group
4 Sep 2007
Agenda [1]
See also: IRC log [2], previous 2007-08-28 [3]
[1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Sep/0003.html
[2] http://www.w3.org/2007/09/04-swd-irc
[3] http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-swd-minutes
Attendees
Present
Tom Baker, Ralph Swick , Ed Summers, Diego Berrueta, Antoine Isaac,
Alistair Miles, Elisa Kendall, Guus Schreiber, Jon Phipps,
Michael Hausenblas
Regrets
Vit Novacek, Clay Redding, Quentin Reul, Simone Onofri, Daniel Rubin,
Sean Bechhofer
Chair
Tom
Scribe
mhausenblas
Contents
Topics
1. ADMIN
2. SKOS
3. RDFa
4. RECIPES
5. VOCABULARY MANAGEMENT
Summary of Action Items
------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------
ADMIN
PROPOSED to accept minutes of ->
http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-swd-minutes.html 2007-08-28
Tom: There was a minor issue, though
<guus> second
RESOLUTION: accepted minutes of 28 Aug 2007
upcoming telecon: 11 Sep
face-to-face meeting - Amsterdam - October 8-9 2007
-> http://www.few.vu.nl/~aisaac/swd/ Logistics
<guus> regrets for 17 Sep [dinner in House of Lords :-)]
<RalphS> regrets from me for 11 Sep telecon
-> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda draft agenda
-> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/39408/swd-ftf-adam-registration/
registration
<scribe> ACTION: Guus to update the f2f agenda [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-swd-minutes.html#action07] [CONTINUES]
SKOS
-> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/Deliverables#SKOS
Tom: New issue "Drawing the pictures" - see Sean's posting
-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Aug/0016.html
post
Tom: Any volunteers?
... not a major issue; postpone
ISSUE 35: ConceptSchemeContainment
(http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/36)
<TomB> Guus proposes that we not discuss "drawing the picture" at the
F2F unless we have a document to discuss.
Guus: Discussed with Sean
... encourage people to use owl:import
... enables to make statements on multiple documents
... merge graphs
<scribe> ACTION: Guus to email a proposal to the list about the issue of
containment [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2007/07/24-swd-minutes.html#action01] [CONTINUES]
Guus: Will prepare this for F2F
Issue-26: RelationshipsBetweenLabels
(http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/26)
<scribe> ACTION: Guus to move ISSUE-26 forward [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2007/07/03-swd-minutes.html#action04] [CONTINUES]
Guus: Will be finished within next two weeks
<scribe> ACTION: Guus to post user experience reports for ISSUE-26
[recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/03-swd-minutes.html#action05]
[CONTINUES]
<scribe> ACTION: Alistair to state the difference between the two
flavours of the SimpleExtension proposal for issue 26 [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-swd-minutes.html#action05] [CONTINUES]
ISSUE-31 BasicLexicalLabelSemantics proposed resolution
see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Jun/0170.html
Tom: Alistair, is it a good place at the agenda for the F2F
... Should we copy in the proposed solution?
<scribe> ACTION: Tom to paste proposed solution to ISSUE-31 into F2F
agenda [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2007/09/04-swd-minutes.html#action06]
ISSUE-38 CompatibilityWithOWL-DL
<guus> [sorry, i get called away for a few minutes]
OWL Full tag
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Jul/0124.html
Alistair: Compatibility with OWL-DL
... issue; new OWL 1.1 WG in the pipeline
... might be resolved within this new OWL version
Elisa: We've been following the OWL 1.1 development
... Sean may have a better idea about the timeline
Tom: Drop it for F2F
RDFa
-> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/RDFa RDFa Overview document
<scribe> ACTION: Ben to bring up the HTML WG review of RDFa syntax with
Steven [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-swd-minutes.html#action01] [DONE]
<RalphS> XHTML2 WG review
Ralph: Ben reminded Steven P. on the process
... Shane and Mark take care for the Syntax doc
-> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/RDFa
Schedule is out of sync!
Tom: I find it confusing looking at the Wiki page wrt F2F
Michael: Syntax - mean
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2007/ED-rdfa-syntax-20070830/ ?
Overview available at http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Drafts
Tom: No preferences where to keep it updated
Michael: Looking at http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/Deliverables#RDFa
Tom: RDFa issues at F2F are Syntax doc and get buy-in from rest of WG on
final design
... should prepare a snapshot around 24 Sep
<RalphS> ACTION: Ralph update RDFa agendum for Amsterdam f2f after
discussion with RDFa TF [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2007/09/04-swd-minutes.html#action08]
RECIPES
see http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/Deliverables#Recipes
<scribe> ACTION: Ralph propose resolution to Recipe issue 1.3 [recorded
in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-swd-minutes.html#action09] [CONTINUES]
<scribe> ACTION: Diego to prepare a f2f agenda topic for recipes
[recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-swd-minutes.html#action08]
[DONE]
<berrueta>
<RalphS> Diego's f2f Recipes agendum
Diego: Had a discussion with Jon just before the telecon
... can I commit the agenda to the Wiki?
<guus> [sorry for my absence, I' back]
Tom: Would be helpful for each discussion item to have a reading list
VOCABULARY MANAGEMENT
-> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/Deliverables#VocabularyMgt
Elisa: Peter (?) might shed some light on this and I see synergies
... agenda is capable of holding this?
<scribe> ACTION: Vit to prepare WG agenda for VM by 11 September
[recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-swd-minutes.html#action10]
[DONE]
<TomB>
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Aug/0037.html
<scribe> ACTION: Elisa to ask for feedback on VM draft [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2007/08/21-swd-minutes.html#action06] [CONTINUES]
Tom: Can someone take an action to update the Wiki?
<scribe> ACTION: Elisa to update the VocabMgt agenda in the F2F
[recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/04-swd-minutes.html#action13]
Tom: TAG and ZZZ reviewed Sauermann, "Cool URIs for the Semantic Web"
... my question is regarding the scope
Elisa: Talking about URI # vs. / issues
... beyond that it does not talk about other things
Tom: Should point from the SWD page to it
... AOB?
... Guus, anything about arrangements at F2F?
... dinner for those who arrive Sun night
Guus: Propose to start on Mon at 9:00 CET
... end Tue on 17:00 CET
<RalphS> list of Amsterdam hotels
<RalphS> Guus: allow 15-20 mins from the University to Schiphol airport
Guus: Back to SKOS
... regarding owl:import
... in SPARQL you can use multiple graphs
<TomB> Named Graphs, Provenance and Trust, Carroll et al.
Guus: My question to Alistair would be
... if we can handle it without making SKOS dependent on OWL
Alistair: Using named graph
... and give guidance
<Elisa> there may be some related insights for provenance, etc. in the
proof markup language (pml) - see
http://www.ksl.stanford.edu/KSL_Abstracts/KSL-04-01.html
Alistair: not for using owl:import
Guus: I'm going to write up the proposal
Antoine: Objection against owl:import
Guus: One solution would be to defined ConceptScheme as a subclass of
owl:Ontology
Tom: Thanks everyone
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Elisa to update the VocabMgt agenda in the F2F [recorded
in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/04-swd-minutes.html#action13]
[NEW] ACTION: Ralph update RDFa agendum for Amsterdam f2f after
discussion with RDFa TF [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2007/09/04-swd-minutes.html#action08]
[NEW] ACTION: Tom to paste proposed solution to ISSUE-31 into F2F agenda
[recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/04-swd-minutes.html#action06]
[PENDING] ACTION: Alistair to state the difference between the two
flavours of the SimpleExtension proposal for issue 26 [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-swd-minutes.html#action05]
[PENDING] ACTION: Elisa to ask for feedback on VM draft [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2007/08/21-swd-minutes.html#action06]
[PENDING] ACTION: Guus to email a proposal to the list about the issue
of containment [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2007/07/24-swd-minutes.html#action01]
[PENDING] ACTION: Guus to move ISSUE-26 forward [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2007/07/03-swd-minutes.html#action04]
[PENDING] ACTION: Guus to post user experience reports for ISSUE-26
[recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/03-swd-minutes.html#action05]
[PENDING] ACTION: Guus to update the f2f agenda [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-swd-minutes.html#action07]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ralph propose resolution to Recipe issue 1.3 [recorded
in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-swd-minutes.html#action09]
[DONE] ACTION: Ben to bring up the HTML WG review of RDFa syntax with
Steven [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-swd-minutes.html#action01]
[DONE] ACTION: Diego to prepare a f2f agenda topic for recipes [recorded
in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-swd-minutes.html#action08]
[DONE] ACTION: Vit to prepare WG agenda for VM by 11 September [recorded
in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-swd-minutes.html#action10]
[End of minutes]
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JOANNEUM RESEARCH Forschungsgesellschaft mbH
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