- From: Amelia Bellamy-Royds <amelia.bellamy.royds@gmail.com>
- Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 15:19:10 -0600
- To: www-svg <www-svg@w3.org>, SVG Working Group <public-svg-wg@w3.org>
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[1]W3C
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SVG Working Group Teleconference
25 Jun 2015
[2]Agenda
[2] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2015Jun/0069.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2015/06/25-svg-irc
Attendees
Present
[Microsoft], ed, AmeliaBR, Thomas, stakagi, Tav,
shepazu, nikos, Smailus, Rossen, bogdan
Regrets
heycam, chris_little
Chair
SV_MEETING_CHAIR
Scribe
AmeliaBR
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Publishing an SVG Path Module
2. [6]Sydney 2016 Face-to-Face
3. [7]Update on SVG Accessibility Task Force
4. [8]Update Web Annotation WG
* [9]Summary of Action Items
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<trackbot> Date: 25 June 2015
<Smailus> What happened to the WebEx change... is that still
happening?
<shepazu> Smailus, yes
Smailus: we're on Webex, didn't realize Zakim was still
working:
[10]https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=mff18becb94b12541dd5ca
b8d86361dae
[10] https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=mff18becb94b12541dd5cab8d86361dae
<Smailus> +smailus
<scribe> Scribenick: AmeliaBR
Publishing an SVG Path Module
[11]https://svgwg.org/specs/paths/
[11] https://svgwg.org/specs/paths/
ed: We've extracted this from the SVG 2 spec, not much else has
happened to it yet.
<ed> ed: I removed the old SVGPathSeg API from svg2 and the
path module
<ed> ... and added the newly proposed API to path modules
ed: SVG 2 now only has the path commands from SVG 1.1
Tav: The changes section is missing the new path bearing
command
ed: We wanted to publish this at the same time as SVG 2, I
don't know if anyone else has something they want to add?
<ed> [12]https://svgwg.org/specs/paths/#InterfaceSVGPathSegment
[12] https://svgwg.org/specs/paths/#InterfaceSVGPathSegment
<ed> [13]https://svgwg.org/specs/paths/#InterfaceSVGPathData
[13] https://svgwg.org/specs/paths/#InterfaceSVGPathData
<ed> [14]https://svgwg.org/specs/paths/#InterfaceSVGPathElement
[14] https://svgwg.org/specs/paths/#InterfaceSVGPathElement
AmeliaBR: I'm concerned about removing the old DOM interfaces
if we don't have a replacement
Nikos: Did you add in the new proposed interfaces
<ed> ed: the replacement is in the path module
ed: Yes [See links above]
<ed> [15]https://svgwg.org/specs/paths/#ChangesSinceSVG2 should
mention the bearing command too
[15] https://svgwg.org/specs/paths/#ChangesSinceSVG2
AmeliaBR: There are other features I would eventually like to
see in the paths module, such as the superpath concept, but
they don't have to be in the first iteration
<nikos> [16]http://moissinac.github.io/SuperPath/
[16] http://moissinac.github.io/SuperPath/
AmeliaBR: the benefit of a modular approach is the module can
be updated separately from the rest of the SVG spec
... One thing we might want to include are the proposed DOM
methods for shape to path and text to path.
shepazu: I don't know where we'd put them, but I agree with the
sentiment.
... we should initiate an email thread / wiki page about
whether there are any other features that we want sooner or
later
ed: I don't want to delay publication to long, since we want to
publish it at the same time as updated SVG 2
... so can we resolve?
RESOLUTION: We will publish a first draft of the Paths module
at the same time as an updated draft of SVG 2
Sydney 2016 Face-to-Face
<ed> Houdini on 30–31 January, and CSS on 1–3 February. So it
<ed> looks to make sense to have our meeting after that.
<ed> I propose then that SVG meets 4–6 February.
ed: Shane sent us the proposal for the Houdini and CSS F2F
meeting dates, SVG would be right after
<ed>
[17]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-svg-wg/2015AprJun/
0324.html
[17] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-svg-wg/2015AprJun/0324.html
ed: Are those dates okay with everyone?
<ed>
[18]https://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/wiki/F2F/Sydney_2016
[18] https://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/wiki/F2F/Sydney_2016
Rossen: That should be fine
shepazu: How much overlap is there? Would it make sense to meet
in parallel, instead of one after the other?
Rossen: That's what I had suggested for Paris. Although I'm
involved in both, I have colleagues who can attend CSS.
shepazu: But then there are also some mostly-CSS people who it
would be nice to work with.
Rossen: We could maybe partly overlap, two days in parallel and
one after, so that there won't be quite so many days of
meetings in a row.
Tav: I do want to make sure that the SVG meetings don't get
squeezed out; I don't want to travel that far just for a day or
two.
Rossen: the SVg meeting wouldn't be any shorter, it would just
be at the same time as CSS is meeting.
Tav: That sounds good.
Rossen: We could try to overlap two days, and have one day
where there is no conflict with CSS. That way, those of us who
are in both meetings can discuss any particular issues.
shepazu: Will the meetings be co-located? Or are they hosted by
different groups?
Rossen: Most likely they will be the same location, so we can
jump back and forth.
AmeliaBR: Should we present this to the mailing list, or make a
resolution now?
Rossen: We can make a resolution, and if anyone has concerns we
can change.
ed: So let's resolve on a two-day overlap. The SVG meeting
would be 2-4 February.
RESOLUTION: The SVG WG will have a F2F meeting in Sydney 2-4
February 2016, co-located with and partially overlapping the
CSS WG meetings.
ed: Do we have any confirmations from Mozilla about hosting the
Paris F2F?
<ed> [19]https://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/wiki/F2F/Paris_2015
[19] https://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/wiki/F2F/Paris_2015
Update on SVG Accessibility Task Force
AmeliaBR: We're currently working on two projects, the SVG
Accessibility API mappings, which will tell browsers how to
treat SVG content from an ARIA perspective, and a set of new
ARIA roles for graphics.
... One issue that will need to be discussed more in the SVG WG
is whether use elements should be treated as a single graphical
element (which is what the TF is leaning towards) or to use an
embedded object/web component model (more complex)
Update Web Annotation WG
<stakagi> german
shepazu: In web annotations, we're talking about ways to define
shapes or regions of a page, and the selectors will be based on
SVG shapes. And of course, we will also be looking at ways to
annotate SVG documents.
Bogdan: What about the proposal that new ideas should always be
developed in Community Incubation Groups?
[Discussion ensues]
shepazu: I will follow up; my interpretation was very different
from yours. I will look into it and try to get back to you.
Bogdan: I'm not sure if we're supposed to keep track of all
SVG-related community groups, and how that gets integrated with
the SVG WG.
<stakagi> bye
trackbot, end telcon
Summary of Action Items
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