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Minutes 9 Feb 2011 SVG WG telcon

From: Erik Dahlstrom <ed@opera.com>
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 22:06:16 +0100
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    [1]W3C

       [1] http://www.w3.org/

                                - DRAFT -

                    SVG Working Group Teleconference

09 Feb 2011

    [2]Agenda

       [2]  
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2011JanMar/0136.html

    See also: [3]IRC log

       [3] http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-svg-irc

Attendees

    Present
           Doug_Schepers, ed, +39.537.7.aaaa, [Microsoft], ChrisL,
           +39.537.7.aabb, adrianba, +39.537.7.aacc

    Regrets
    Chair
           erik

    Scribe
           shepazu, pdengler

Contents

      * [4]Topics
          1. [5]SVG in HTML / SVG Integration
          2. [6]SVG 1.1 2nd edition
          3. [7]SVG Face to Face
          4. [8]marker colors and path colors
      * [9]Summary of Action Items
      _________________________________________________________

    <trackbot> Date: 09 February 2011

    <shepazu> scribenick: shepazu

SVG in HTML / SVG Integration

    tbah: I've sent in some use cases for using SVG as a substitute for
    PNG, with a PNG fallback, and I'm running into sandboxing issues
    around events

    shepazu: given <a href="foo.html"><iframe or object/></a> or <div
    onclick="foo()"><iframe or object/></div>, is there a security
    problem with firing an event in the host document, as well as any
    interaction within the referenced SVG?

    pdengler: this works in IE9

    tbah: not in any other browser I tested

    <ed> if the data attribute in <object type="image/svg+xml"
    data="buttonA.svg"> was replaced to point to an html document
    instead, would the same thing happen?

    pdengler: yes, works with .html as well

    shepazu: works as img in WebKit, doesn't work as object

    <ChrisL> tref should be able to solve some of the text issues

    <ChrisL> but is inconsistently implemented

    [10]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/modules/param/master/SVGParamPrimer.html

      [10] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/modules/param/master/SVGParamPrimer.html

    ChrisL: could be good to have alt text brought in as SVG tref
    content

    ed: would be good to have a table of browser results, also with
    .html content as well as .svg

    shepazu: maybe Tav can help with SVG Integration spec

    tbah: sure
    ... looks like "currentColor" lets you reuse CSS from outside SVG

    ChrisL: only in the same tree

    shepazu: would be nice to be able to inherit style from parent
    document, if there's no security problem

    <ed>
    [11]http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/the-iframe-element.html#the-iframe-el
    ement

      [11]  
http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/the-iframe-element.html#the-iframe-element

    ed: we should be able to use @seamless
    ... we should apply that to other types of inclusion for SVG2

    <pdengler> scribeNick: pdengler

    <scribe> ACTION: to tbah to create table of results from Tav's test
    on [12]http://tavmjong.free.fr/SVG/BUTTON_TEST/button_test.html
    [recorded in
    [13]http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-svg-minutes.html#action01]

      [12] http://tavmjong.free.fr/SVG/BUTTON_TEST/button_test.html

    <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - to

    <scribe> ACTION: tbah to to create table of results from Tav's test
    on [14]http://tavmjong.free.fr/SVG/BUTTON_TEST/button_test.html
    [recorded in
    [15]http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-svg-minutes.html#action02]

      [14] http://tavmjong.free.fr/SVG/BUTTON_TEST/button_test.html

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-2954 - To create table of results from
    Tav's test on
    [16]http://tavmjong.free.fr/SVG/BUTTON_TEST/button_test.html on
    Tavmjong Bah - due 2011-02-16].

      [16] http://tavmjong.free.fr/SVG/BUTTON_TEST/button_test.html

SVG 1.1 2nd edition

    ed: Anthonyh checked in changes for issue:2339 for elevation filters
    and added a test

    <ed>
    [17]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2011JanMar/013
    4.html

      [17]  
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2011JanMar/0134.html

    [18]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2339

      [18] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2339

    <ed> ISSUE-2339?

    <trackbot> ISSUE-2339 -- Last Call Comment: definition of azimuth,
    elevation for feDistantLight -- open

    <trackbot> [19]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2339

      [19] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2339

    ed: We have to just all agree it's a good change and review the
    tests.

    actin: ed to review tests for issue #2339 / filters feDistantLight

    <scribe> ACTION: ed to review tests for issue #2339 / filters
    feDistantLight [recorded in
    [20]http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-svg-minutes.html#action03]

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-2955 - Review tests for issue #2339 /
    filters feDistantLight [on Erik Dahlström - due 2011-02-16].

    <ed> [21]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/wiki/Full_11

      [21] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/wiki/Full_11

    ed: all other of my work items are mostly closed

    ChrisL: I have an open action of removing wording on higlighting
    link. There was a related item on fixing the tests.
    ... Those are checked in.
    ... I also have the changing the appendix action which I am half way
    through with

    <scribe> topic : Last few test cases on Test Matrix

    <ed>
    [22]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/status/implementation_
    matrix.html

      [22]  
http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/status/implementation_matrix.html

    shepazu: What else remains?

    ed: Need to produce implementation report

    ChrisL: What we are using is a perfectly good impelmentation report
    ... Broken links and valid HTML can take a while to hunt down

    <ed> text-altglyph-02-b

    ed: We need at least one implementation to move on
    ... Opera passes and batik has a partial passing. This might be one
    that heycam could look at.
    ... We could split the case into to parts

    pdengler: If we do that can we put it into the "fonts" category

    <scribe> ACTION: ed to split the tests and consider renaming to
    Fonts prefix [recorded in
    [23]http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-svg-minutes.html#action04]

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-2956 - Split the tests and consider
    renaming to Fonts prefix [on Erik Dahlström - due 2011-02-16].

    <ed>
    [24]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-dom-04-f.svg

      [24] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-dom-04-f.svg

    ed: Batik / Safari partial pass and Opera passes.

    <scribe> ACTION: ed to split up test
    [25]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-dom-04-f.svg
    and recategorize under fonts [recorded in
    [26]http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-svg-minutes.html#action05]

      [25] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-dom-04-f.svg

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-2957 - Split up test
    [27]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-dom-04-f.svg
    and recategorize under fonts [on Erik Dahlström - due 2011-02-16].

      [27] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-dom-04-f.svg

    <ChrisL> linking-uri-02-b

    <ChrisL> need retests results for linking-uri-02-b and
    metadata-example-01-t for IE9 and Safari

    <ed>
    [28]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-dom-05-f.svg

      [28] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-dom-05-f.svg

    <ed> "The test relies on support for WebFonts - either SVG Fonts, or
    WOFF, or OpenType."

    <ed> but no WOFF or opentype fonts are linked to

    ChrisL: This font is used in a few spots and I cannot convert this
    font. But I will make a font that works for this test

    ed: It relies on the advances of the fonts

    <scribe> ACTION: ChrisL to provide alternate font for
    tp://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-dom-05-f.svg to
    test the DOM methods if SVGFonts is not implemented (using WOFF or
    some other font) [recorded in
    [29]http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-svg-minutes.html#action06]

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-2958 - Provide alternate font for
    tp://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-dom-05-f.svg to
    test the DOM methods if SVGFonts is not implemented (using WOFF or
    some other font) [on Chris Lilley - due 2011-02-16].

    <ChrisL> fontforge seems to have an issue with importing svg fonts
    that use characters beyone plane zero

    ed: As a back up plan, we could pull this out of the test suite and
    hold for a future time

    <ed>
    [30]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-text-05-t.svg

      [30] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-text-05-t.svg

    <ed>
    [31]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2011JanMar/001
    9.html

      [31]  
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2011JanMar/0019.html

    <scribe> ACTION: ed to break down test
    [32]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-text-05-t.svg
    and determine correctness; change SVG Font to give proper alignment
    [recorded in
    [33]http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-svg-minutes.html#action07]

      [32] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-text-05-t.svg

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-2959 - Break down test
    [34]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-text-05-t.svg
    and determine correctness; change SVG Font to give proper alignment
    [on Erik Dahlström - due 2011-02-16].

      [34] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-text-05-t.svg

SVG Face to Face

    <ed>
    [35]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/wiki/F2F/Auckland_2011/Agenda

      [35] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/wiki/F2F/Auckland_2011/Agenda

    <ed> If you are leading a session or have proposals up for
    discussion, these must be on the wiki by Monday 14 February 2011 so
    that participants have a chance to read and consider them before the
    meeting.

    ed: Make sure that agenda items have associated wiki content for
    your topics by Monday 2/15
    ... Make sure that agenda items have associated wiki content for
    your topics by Monday 2/14
    ... Heycam and I will arrange agenda page and allocate time.

marker colors and path colors

    <ed>
    [36]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2011JanMar/013
    7.html

      [36]  
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2011JanMar/0137.html

    <tbah> Just got hung up on, be back in a sec...

    <ed> trackbot, close telcon

    <trackbot> Sorry, ed, I don't understand 'trackbot, close telcon'.
    Please refer to [37]http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc for help

      [37] http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc

    <ed> rrs-agent, make minutes

Summary of Action Items

    [NEW] ACTION: ChrisL to provide alternate font for
    tp://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-dom-05-f.svg to
    test the DOM methods if SVGFonts is not implemented (using WOFF or
    some other font) [recorded in
    [38]http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-svg-minutes.html#action06]
    [NEW] ACTION: ed to break down test
    [39]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-text-05-t.svg
    and determine correctness; change SVG Font to give proper alignment
    [recorded in
    [40]http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-svg-minutes.html#action07]
    [NEW] ACTION: ed to review tests for issue #2339 / filters
    feDistantLight [recorded in
    [41]http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-svg-minutes.html#action03]
    [NEW] ACTION: ed to split the tests and consider renaming to Fonts
    prefix [recorded in
    [42]http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-svg-minutes.html#action04]
    [NEW] ACTION: ed to split up test
    [43]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-dom-04-f.svg
    and recategorize under fonts [recorded in
    [44]http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-svg-minutes.html#action05]
    [NEW] ACTION: tbah to to create table of results from Tav's test on
    [45]http://tavmjong.free.fr/SVG/BUTTON_TEST/button_test.html
    [recorded in
    [46]http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-svg-minutes.html#action02]
    [NEW] ACTION: to tbah to create table of results from Tav's test on
    [47]http://tavmjong.free.fr/SVG/BUTTON_TEST/button_test.html
    [recorded in
    [48]http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-svg-minutes.html#action01]

      [39] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-text-05-t.svg
      [43] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-dom-04-f.svg
      [45] http://tavmjong.free.fr/SVG/BUTTON_TEST/button_test.html
      [47] http://tavmjong.free.fr/SVG/BUTTON_TEST/button_test.html

    [End of minutes]
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Co-Chair, W3C SVG Working Group
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