- From: Erik Dahlstrom <ed@opera.com>
- Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 22:06:16 +0100
- To: "public-svg-wg@w3.org" <public-svg-wg@w3.org>
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[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
- DRAFT -
SVG Working Group Teleconference
09 Feb 2011
[2]Agenda
[2]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2011JanMar/0136.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-svg-irc
Attendees
Present
Doug_Schepers, ed, +39.537.7.aaaa, [Microsoft], ChrisL,
+39.537.7.aabb, adrianba, +39.537.7.aacc
Regrets
Chair
erik
Scribe
shepazu, pdengler
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]SVG in HTML / SVG Integration
2. [6]SVG 1.1 2nd edition
3. [7]SVG Face to Face
4. [8]marker colors and path colors
* [9]Summary of Action Items
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<trackbot> Date: 09 February 2011
<shepazu> scribenick: shepazu
SVG in HTML / SVG Integration
tbah: I've sent in some use cases for using SVG as a substitute for
PNG, with a PNG fallback, and I'm running into sandboxing issues
around events
shepazu: given <a href="foo.html"><iframe or object/></a> or <div
onclick="foo()"><iframe or object/></div>, is there a security
problem with firing an event in the host document, as well as any
interaction within the referenced SVG?
pdengler: this works in IE9
tbah: not in any other browser I tested
<ed> if the data attribute in <object type="image/svg+xml"
data="buttonA.svg"> was replaced to point to an html document
instead, would the same thing happen?
pdengler: yes, works with .html as well
shepazu: works as img in WebKit, doesn't work as object
<ChrisL> tref should be able to solve some of the text issues
<ChrisL> but is inconsistently implemented
[10]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/modules/param/master/SVGParamPrimer.html
[10] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/modules/param/master/SVGParamPrimer.html
ChrisL: could be good to have alt text brought in as SVG tref
content
ed: would be good to have a table of browser results, also with
.html content as well as .svg
shepazu: maybe Tav can help with SVG Integration spec
tbah: sure
... looks like "currentColor" lets you reuse CSS from outside SVG
ChrisL: only in the same tree
shepazu: would be nice to be able to inherit style from parent
document, if there's no security problem
<ed>
[11]http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/the-iframe-element.html#the-iframe-el
ement
[11]
http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/the-iframe-element.html#the-iframe-element
ed: we should be able to use @seamless
... we should apply that to other types of inclusion for SVG2
<pdengler> scribeNick: pdengler
<scribe> ACTION: to tbah to create table of results from Tav's test
on [12]http://tavmjong.free.fr/SVG/BUTTON_TEST/button_test.html
[recorded in
[13]http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-svg-minutes.html#action01]
[12] http://tavmjong.free.fr/SVG/BUTTON_TEST/button_test.html
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - to
<scribe> ACTION: tbah to to create table of results from Tav's test
on [14]http://tavmjong.free.fr/SVG/BUTTON_TEST/button_test.html
[recorded in
[15]http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-svg-minutes.html#action02]
[14] http://tavmjong.free.fr/SVG/BUTTON_TEST/button_test.html
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2954 - To create table of results from
Tav's test on
[16]http://tavmjong.free.fr/SVG/BUTTON_TEST/button_test.html on
Tavmjong Bah - due 2011-02-16].
[16] http://tavmjong.free.fr/SVG/BUTTON_TEST/button_test.html
SVG 1.1 2nd edition
ed: Anthonyh checked in changes for issue:2339 for elevation filters
and added a test
<ed>
[17]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2011JanMar/013
4.html
[17]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2011JanMar/0134.html
[18]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2339
[18] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2339
<ed> ISSUE-2339?
<trackbot> ISSUE-2339 -- Last Call Comment: definition of azimuth,
elevation for feDistantLight -- open
<trackbot> [19]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2339
[19] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2339
ed: We have to just all agree it's a good change and review the
tests.
actin: ed to review tests for issue #2339 / filters feDistantLight
<scribe> ACTION: ed to review tests for issue #2339 / filters
feDistantLight [recorded in
[20]http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-svg-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2955 - Review tests for issue #2339 /
filters feDistantLight [on Erik Dahlström - due 2011-02-16].
<ed> [21]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/wiki/Full_11
[21] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/wiki/Full_11
ed: all other of my work items are mostly closed
ChrisL: I have an open action of removing wording on higlighting
link. There was a related item on fixing the tests.
... Those are checked in.
... I also have the changing the appendix action which I am half way
through with
<scribe> topic : Last few test cases on Test Matrix
<ed>
[22]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/status/implementation_
matrix.html
[22]
http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/status/implementation_matrix.html
shepazu: What else remains?
ed: Need to produce implementation report
ChrisL: What we are using is a perfectly good impelmentation report
... Broken links and valid HTML can take a while to hunt down
<ed> text-altglyph-02-b
ed: We need at least one implementation to move on
... Opera passes and batik has a partial passing. This might be one
that heycam could look at.
... We could split the case into to parts
pdengler: If we do that can we put it into the "fonts" category
<scribe> ACTION: ed to split the tests and consider renaming to
Fonts prefix [recorded in
[23]http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-svg-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2956 - Split the tests and consider
renaming to Fonts prefix [on Erik Dahlström - due 2011-02-16].
<ed>
[24]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-dom-04-f.svg
[24] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-dom-04-f.svg
ed: Batik / Safari partial pass and Opera passes.
<scribe> ACTION: ed to split up test
[25]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-dom-04-f.svg
and recategorize under fonts [recorded in
[26]http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-svg-minutes.html#action05]
[25] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-dom-04-f.svg
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2957 - Split up test
[27]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-dom-04-f.svg
and recategorize under fonts [on Erik Dahlström - due 2011-02-16].
[27] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-dom-04-f.svg
<ChrisL> linking-uri-02-b
<ChrisL> need retests results for linking-uri-02-b and
metadata-example-01-t for IE9 and Safari
<ed>
[28]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-dom-05-f.svg
[28] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-dom-05-f.svg
<ed> "The test relies on support for WebFonts - either SVG Fonts, or
WOFF, or OpenType."
<ed> but no WOFF or opentype fonts are linked to
ChrisL: This font is used in a few spots and I cannot convert this
font. But I will make a font that works for this test
ed: It relies on the advances of the fonts
<scribe> ACTION: ChrisL to provide alternate font for
tp://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-dom-05-f.svg to
test the DOM methods if SVGFonts is not implemented (using WOFF or
some other font) [recorded in
[29]http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-svg-minutes.html#action06]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2958 - Provide alternate font for
tp://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-dom-05-f.svg to
test the DOM methods if SVGFonts is not implemented (using WOFF or
some other font) [on Chris Lilley - due 2011-02-16].
<ChrisL> fontforge seems to have an issue with importing svg fonts
that use characters beyone plane zero
ed: As a back up plan, we could pull this out of the test suite and
hold for a future time
<ed>
[30]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-text-05-t.svg
[30] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-text-05-t.svg
<ed>
[31]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2011JanMar/001
9.html
[31]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2011JanMar/0019.html
<scribe> ACTION: ed to break down test
[32]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-text-05-t.svg
and determine correctness; change SVG Font to give proper alignment
[recorded in
[33]http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-svg-minutes.html#action07]
[32] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-text-05-t.svg
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2959 - Break down test
[34]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-text-05-t.svg
and determine correctness; change SVG Font to give proper alignment
[on Erik Dahlström - due 2011-02-16].
[34] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-text-05-t.svg
SVG Face to Face
<ed>
[35]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/wiki/F2F/Auckland_2011/Agenda
[35] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/wiki/F2F/Auckland_2011/Agenda
<ed> If you are leading a session or have proposals up for
discussion, these must be on the wiki by Monday 14 February 2011 so
that participants have a chance to read and consider them before the
meeting.
ed: Make sure that agenda items have associated wiki content for
your topics by Monday 2/15
... Make sure that agenda items have associated wiki content for
your topics by Monday 2/14
... Heycam and I will arrange agenda page and allocate time.
marker colors and path colors
<ed>
[36]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2011JanMar/013
7.html
[36]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2011JanMar/0137.html
<tbah> Just got hung up on, be back in a sec...
<ed> trackbot, close telcon
<trackbot> Sorry, ed, I don't understand 'trackbot, close telcon'.
Please refer to [37]http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc for help
[37] http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc
<ed> rrs-agent, make minutes
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: ChrisL to provide alternate font for
tp://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-dom-05-f.svg to
test the DOM methods if SVGFonts is not implemented (using WOFF or
some other font) [recorded in
[38]http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-svg-minutes.html#action06]
[NEW] ACTION: ed to break down test
[39]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-text-05-t.svg
and determine correctness; change SVG Font to give proper alignment
[recorded in
[40]http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-svg-minutes.html#action07]
[NEW] ACTION: ed to review tests for issue #2339 / filters
feDistantLight [recorded in
[41]http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-svg-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: ed to split the tests and consider renaming to Fonts
prefix [recorded in
[42]http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-svg-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: ed to split up test
[43]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-dom-04-f.svg
and recategorize under fonts [recorded in
[44]http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-svg-minutes.html#action05]
[NEW] ACTION: tbah to to create table of results from Tav's test on
[45]http://tavmjong.free.fr/SVG/BUTTON_TEST/button_test.html
[recorded in
[46]http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-svg-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: to tbah to create table of results from Tav's test on
[47]http://tavmjong.free.fr/SVG/BUTTON_TEST/button_test.html
[recorded in
[48]http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-svg-minutes.html#action01]
[39] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-text-05-t.svg
[43] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-dom-04-f.svg
[45] http://tavmjong.free.fr/SVG/BUTTON_TEST/button_test.html
[47] http://tavmjong.free.fr/SVG/BUTTON_TEST/button_test.html
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Erik Dahlstrom, Core Technology Developer, Opera Software
Co-Chair, W3C SVG Working Group
Personal blog: http://my.opera.com/macdev_ed
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