Re: Conf Call Agenda Mar 5th

On 3 Mar 2009, at 13:06, Robin Berjon wrote:

> On Mar 2, 2009, at 04:46 , Jeff Schiller wrote:
>> 4) SVG Momentum:
>> - SVG used on Washington Post:
>> http://ajaxian.com/archives/washington-post-using-svg-and-vml (using
>> Raphael library)
>> - Safari 4 Beta release (with SMIL support)
>> - Apple Developer Connection article on SVG:
>> http://developer.apple.com/safari/articles/webcontent/fundamentalsofsvg.html
>> - discussion of improved SVG support in Open Doc Format (ODF):
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-ig/2009JanMar/ 
>> 0068.html
>
> In terms of momentum I think we want to get into a concerted effort  
> to get SVG more appreciation in widgets. The mobile industry is  
> going nuts over widgets, and pretty much all the relevant terminals  
> have SVG, yet people seem to be focusing on HTML-based widgets. I  
> think the WebApps group is already aware of SVG (well, I ranted at  
> them about it :) but we should push it in other widget-related  
> outfits such as OMTP Bondi (who are putting together some nifty  
> APIs). Also, folks who have cool SVG content could repackage them as  
> widgets — it's simple, fresh, fun, and gives you a chance to figure  
> out kinks with the widgets packaging spec that's now in last call.
>
> Opera has a big fat DB of widgets, do any of those use SVG?

SVG works in widgets yes.  I'm not sure how many use SVG, but as most  
regular web developers don't know much SVG, it will not be many.   
Widgets are ideal for SVG though as one doesn't have to care about IE  
support.  There is at least a SVG clock widget written by Chaals, but  
clock examples are a bit like the Hello world of the widget  
landscape.  Here is a list searching by SVG keyword - http://widgets.opera.com/search/?order=name&q=SVG 
  .  Nothing too exciting.

>> Can they run on mobile?

Yes SVG Widgets can run on mobile, but I doubt any of those there take  
mobile into account.  We have a special widget mode for optimising for  
mobile - http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/widget-modes-docked-widget-and-more/

> Could you folks reach out to your dev community about this?

We can try.  Is there any plan of attack you'd suggest to get Widget  
developers (who are ideal devs to target SVG to, as mentioned above)  
to look into and start learning and using SVG?  I'm still in the  
process of writing a SVG 101 article (that is taking longer than I  
hoped), so that can help in telling widget developers how to get  
started with SVG.




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David Storey

Chief Web Opener / Product Manager, Opera Presto / Product Manager,  
Opera Dragonfly
W3C WG:  Mobile Web Best Practices / SVG Interest Group

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Received on Tuesday, 3 March 2009 17:34:13 UTC