Re: [minutes] SVG IG Conf Call Jan 8th

Hi all,

and sorry about my absence at the last telcon. I seem to have bad lucks 
with the telcon times. This time I had to go attend an Autocad/GIS 
course ...

Regarding SVG Open: I proposed Brad Neuberg a timeframe:

September 4 to 23
October 5 to 19

But did not hear anything back so far. I'll let you know as soon as I 
know more. I don't like to make a Call for Paper without having a 
definite location. I hope that we have

I have to finish my PhD now until the end of April and I would 
appreciate if I wouldn't have to invest too much time on SVG Open 2009 
until May. Of course I would help out with the webpage, but I would 
appreciate if others could work on the webpage texts and work on the 
conference organization and promotion. Any volunteers?

Andreas

Doug Schepers wrote:
> Hi, SVG IG-
>
> The minutes of the SVG IG teleconference of 2009-01-08 can be found here:
>
>   http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-svgig-minutes.html
>
> Or as text below:
>
>    [1]W3C
>
>       [1] http://www.w3.org/
>
>                                - DRAFT -
>
>                    SVG Interest Group Teleconference
>
> 08 Jan 2009
>
>    See also: [2]IRC log
>
>       [2] http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-svgig-irc
>
> Attendees
>
>    Present
>           +1.713.851.aaaa, +1.149.1.aabb, +1.312.540.aacc, Shepazu,
>           +49.918.126.5.aadd, Manuel, JeffSchiller, stelt, Rob_Russell,
>           rlongson
>
>    Regrets
>    Chair
>           SV_MEETING_CHAIR
>
>    Scribe
>           gwadej
>
> Contents
>
>      * [3]Topics
>      * [4]Summary of Action Items
>      _________________________________________________________
>
>
>
>    <trackbot> Date: 08 January 2009
>
>    <JeffSchiller> JeffSchiller, aacc is me
>
>    <stelt> stelt is listening over phone
>
>    <shepazu> scribeNick: gwadej
>
>    JeffSchiller: SVG Open issues
>
>    <Donald_Doherty> Jeff, I'm on IRC on both HCLS and SVGIG. I'll be
>    just looking in from time to time.
>
>    <JeffSchiller> Donald_Doherty: np, thanks
>
>    shepazu: Google and Mozilla talking about sponsoring
>    ... Google may provide venue
>    ... not sure about local contacts and what they would need to do.
>
>    JeffSchiller: if Brad Newberg is working on it we might be able to
>    get some help from him
>
>    shepazu: We need to decide what needs to be done locally
>    ... since much would be done by phone, could be done non-locally as
>    well.
>
>    Stelt: Google has geek meetings all the time, so good venue
>    ... Google would have wifi and such handled
>
>    shepazu: we could trust a lot if Google did it
>    ... maybe a few days before.
>    ... might be better on the weekends, maybe better turnout
>
>    Rob_Russell: Depends on the audience
>
>    shepazu: during the week everyone works or whatever. Weekends more
>    likely to be free.
>
>    gwadej: weekends for family
>
>    shepazu: technical presentations on the weekday
>    ... maybe overlap end of week over weekend
>
>    <JeffSchiller>
>    [5]http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2007/11/12/Bad-Ruby
>
>       [5] http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2007/11/12/Bad-Ruby
>
>    shepazu: Maybe Google provide better venue on weekend?
>    ... don't know about Pittsburg as a location. Been there nice.
>    ... maybe Boston, or Bay area.
>    ... not enough information for deciding location
>    ... stelt has most planning expeience
>    ... call for papers even without venue decision
>    ... abstract even without knowing and might be willing to decide if
>    chosen.
>
>    stelt: If someone from Mozilla is willing to help, we might be able
>    to get more info
>
>    shepazu: Rob has contact with Mozilla
>
>    Rob_Russell: Direct questions to Jonathan to push for Mozilla help.
>
>    shepazu: good chance to get Mozilla to sponsor
>    ... Robert O'Callahan?
>    ... others at Mozilla might be able to come
>
>    JeffSchiller: Maybe invite someone like Sam Ruby to give a keynote
>
>    shepazu: Might bring in more from IBM
>    ... Shelley Powers?
>    ... present, not necessarily a keynote, but present and promote
>    book.
>
>    <stelt> Cant we finalize (make sure) on Google venue and then let
>    Andreas do the call?
>
>    stelt: seemed like it was close to certain, maybe we can push a
>    little with Andreas to get it completed
>
>    JeffSchiller: still no information on dates
>
>    shepazu: D. Dailey had commented about before school had started
>
>    <stelt> dates should be good for USA folks
>
>    JeffSchiller: Not during the first week of classes
>    ... try to finalize the dates on the mailing list
>
>    shepazu: if at Google, I would count on twice the attendance
>    ... how long since easy one for Americans to attend
>
>    <stelt> 6yrs
>
>    <JeffSchiller>
>    [6]http://www.amazon.com/Socialism-Great-Workers-Memoir-China/dp/097
>    7743373
>
>       [6]
> http://www.amazon.com/Socialism-Great-Workers-Memoir-China/dp/0977743373
>
>    JeffSchiller: Move on to Website
>
>    <stelt> svg.org is back, but for how long?
>
>    JeffSchiller: still work that needs to be done.
>    ... svg.org was not reachable a few days ago, but appears to be
>    back.
>
>    shepazu: maintainer is currently in China, fixed some configuration
>    problems.
>    ... interested in new site and help with hosting new site. Would be
>    willing to provide a data dump
>    ... still can't get input from owner of svg.org domain
>
>    JeffSchiller: Let's proceed with planetsvg and ignore svg.org
>
>    shepazu: SVG Tiny 1.2 is a recommendation!!!
>
>    <stelt> congrats shepazu
>
>    shepazu: WG happy that it is done and apologetic that it took so
>    long.
>    ... doing errata for 1.1, cleanup, tests, one errata for 1.2,
>    looking toward next version of language.
>    ... news item on planetsvg, not on svg.org
>    ... putting a lot of pressure on Rob. How can we help?
>
>    Rob_Russell: The theming went well,
>    ... guides need to be written, etc.
>    ... the bits that need to be done, like feeds, etc. working on.
>    ... imporvement to moderation view will make it easier for
>    moderators.
>    ... SVG upload for the gallery is a big piece
>    ... anyone willing to help with the server-side stuff
>
>    JeffSchiller: Will check his access to make certain it worked
>    ... what is part of the theme from Manuel
>
>    <stelt> Rob, saw BSVG/B bug in moderation view?
>
>    Rob_Russell: theme as a zip sent, fixed, and returned
>
>    Manuel: working on the changes
>
>    Rob_Russell: it is in a SVN repository, so maybe easier access for
>    Manuel
>    ... workflow for the multiple servers
>    ... update repository, then have servers svn up for the changes.
>
>    JeffSchiller: try out the css changes this way
>
>    <shepazu> stelt, that sounds great... we need more content on the
>    wiki
>
>    Rob_Russell: Making changes rapidly is not the problem yet, so he
>    can be in the middle.
>
>    JeffSchiller: outgoing feeds problems?
>
>    Rob_Russell: have not tracked down where all of the outgoing feeds
>    already work, much may be
>    ... there without any more work,
>
>    JeffSchiller: Check if its there and then do the css changes.
>
>    Rob_Russell: Put in a link for the feeds we find.
>
>    JeffSchiller: Email subscriptions for forums and such after the
>    themes and such.
>
>    <stelt> svglogo.com gone, where do people get the official logo now?
>
>    <shepazu> [7]http://www.planetsvg.com/content/wiki-module is really
>    dark, hard to read
>
>       [7] http://www.planetsvg.com/content/wiki-module
>
>    shepazu: after the aqua buttons, tutorial on reusable content
>
>    Manuel: SVG -based websites and such
>
>    <shepazu> stelt: svglogo.com was never intended to provide the
>    logo... it will be available from W3C soon
>
>    Manuel: wireframing websites with SVG, realize in HTML, in about a
>    month..
>
>    JeffSchiller: Checklist from stelt for the website?
>
>    shepazu: solicit content from developers list
>    ... two French guys, one who had his own site and a book, another
>    with a widgets framework.
>
>    <Manuel> i found the logo on the site of the designer who created
>    it...
>
>    shepazu: maybe a forum on making widgets.
>
>    <Manuel> [8]http://www.root2art.co.uk/svg_logo_download/index.php
>
>       [8] http://www.root2art.co.uk/svg_logo_download/index.php
>
>    shepazu: Niko (he's Italian)
>    ... very good framework.
>
>    JeffSchiller: Ferd (sp?) used to do some games, now has a blog.
>
>    <JeffSchiller> s/Ferd/Fyrd => [9]http://a.deveria.com/
>
>       [9] http://a.deveria.com/
>
>    <stelt> i found my SVG site checklist:
>    [10]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-ig/2008JulSep/006
>    6.html
>
>      [10]
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-ig/2008JulSep/0066.html
>
>    shepazu: Firefox widget set
>    ... works in browsers, not just Firefox
>
>    <JeffSchiller> stelt: I was talking about content for the website
>    that you might be willing to write, I think you mentioned a
>    checklist or something
>
>    shepazu: Kevin Lindsey, I wonder if he would do a tutorial?
>    ... maybe not need to worry about the content. We need to have
>    something to point to from the W3C site.
>
>    <stelt> wants to move his svg.startpagina.nl links
>
>    Rob_Russell: Once we're using the new theme as default, then put
>    this on W3C.
>
>    JeffSchiller: let's fix the theme and then, if no show-stoppers
>    let's put it out, (then we can teak forever._
>    ... Little space at top was for links, but we don't use it for now.
>    ... identify low-handing fruit in browser bugs.
>
>    shepazu: run across a few browser bugs in Firefox, because it's the
>    one he uses the most.
>    ... putting some priority on SVG fonts, not in 3.1 but soon.
>    ... SMIl is a big one.
>    ... little stuff, like the title not giving a tooltip.
>    ... workaround like misuseing XLink title.
>    ... part of engine core, so it's stuck in review
>
>    rlongson: can't review it, and people who can aren't doing it yet.
>
>    <JeffSchiller>
>    [11]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/IG/wiki/Accessibility_Activity#Im
>    plementation_Status_.28Current_Behavior.2C_Bugs.29
>
>      [11]
> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/IG/wiki/Accessibility_Activity#Implementation_Status_.28Current_Behavior.2C_Bugs.29
>
>    <stelt> if we write about low hanging fruit bugs, make sure to add
>    links to bug tracking systems
>
>    <shepazu> trackbot, end telcon
>
> Summary of Action Items
>
>    [End of minutes]
>      _________________________________________________________
>
>
>   


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