- From: Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 01:55:21 -0400
- To: SVG IG List <public-svg-ig@w3.org>
Hi, SVG IG-
The minutes for the SVG Interest Group telcon can be found here:
http://www.w3.org/2009/06/25-svgig-minutes.html
Or as text, below:
[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
- DRAFT -
SVG Interest Group Teleconference
25 Jun 2009
See also: [2]IRC log
[2] http://www.w3.org/2009/06/25-svgig-irc
Attendees
Present
+1.312.228.aaaa, +966aabb, Rob, gwadej, Jeff, Shepazu.a,
+1.253.223.aacc, DavePorter, Shepazu, +03174349aadd
Regrets
Chair
SV_MEETING_CHAIR
Scribe
DavePorter
Contents
* [3]Topics
1. [4]face to face for SVG-IG
2. [5]Planet SVG site
3. [6]show and tell section
* [7]Summary of Action Items
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<trackbot> Date: 25 June 2009
<gwadej> I tried the conference number, it picked up, announced the
bridge, transferred me to another number and hung up.
<JeffSchiller> hello all: i get "the conference is restricted at
this time"
<Rob_Russell> yeah, i get the same...
phone gave me a busy signal
<gwadej> A second attempt got the 'conference is restricted' message
<JeffSchiller> i tried shepazu's mobile # and got his voicemail
immediately
<JeffSchiller> how are people with skype?
<gwadej> okay for me.
Not on it, never used it
<JeffSchiller> ok, that's a non-starter then :)
Don't let me hold you back
<JeffSchiller> we may have to reschedule - let's give shepazu a few
more minutes
<shepazu> hey
<JeffSchiller> hey doug
<Rob_Russell> i'm the 966 number
Same phone #? I get a busy signal
I'll try again
<shepazu> be there momentarily
<shepazu> /me Zakim, call shepazu
Dave Porter volunteers to be the scribe
Want to get the rhythm of the calls going again
Andreas and Ruud not able to make it
SVGOpen topic:
<shepazu> scribenick: DavePorter
Rob: looking into computer history museum, will be there for the
dinner
It's reserved but not paid for
Andreas said the price was OK and everyone agreed
John F. space for workshops, a place at IBM, have directionss to
physical location
<stelt> Jon F. , not John F.
Submission guidelines, when someone submits, it has to be in DocBook
format
Andreas providing additional help for people's familiarity with it
Docbook is a pain but we're trying to be diplomatic about the need
for it, and the benefits
We should bring up a discussion about DocBook separately.
Alternative: put a form on the web. If you're trying to get at
fielded data, that might work better
The information we need would be more reliably placed and
accessible.
Maybe we coudl get DocBook out of Open Office.
The minutes from the SVGOpen call are up, let's deal with the issues
separately, guidelines are being worked on.
Review wise: there are two new abstracts there, unassigned reviews.
Andreas needs to assign these out
By end of month all reviews need to be done
Other SVG Open issues??
<Rob_Russell>
[8]http://www.schepers.cc/svgopen/wiki/index.php?title=Minutes--2009
0622
[8]
http://www.schepers.cc/svgopen/wiki/index.php?title=Minutes--20090622
Thanks doug
Do we have everything covered on the insurance issue? Question goes
to Google.
"Event insurance"
Like, $60 a day
THe insurance companies treat this as a routine thing
That was Wade speaking
Sponsor discussions still going on
Still in IBM financial department, Charles from Opera asked for an
invoice
face to face for SVG-IG
Stelt talked about it
Want a working session to deal with issues
We should be planning a date and later on a place
What are some of the items or issues needing work?
Stelt: planet SVG,
Since we're a small group ,we could fairly easily grab a room
somewhere
Jeff thinks needs a little more discussion on scope and items
Stelt to mail out ideas & invitatations to mai llist
Planet SVG site
Rob and Jeff have been pretty busy
Hoping to get back to working on,
There's a couple tools needing integration into site
Rob: Floating the idea of a site redesign
If there was a visual refresh, are there any objections?
Stelt: have a lot of activity up front, no click.
Let's put a flash intro there--(Just a joke)
<JeffSchiller> silverlight with flash fallback
Suggest make it work better for smaller type screens
Some recent research on this
Example: working from a Netbook
<stelt> mobiles are screwed?
The concern was heard
Thanks
It's been nice, there have been news items coming in. Also a lot of
room in there to write guides.
Encourage putting together tutorials or how-to's, lets get more
content
Painful: image hosting
Provide fallback images for SVG. SVG is preferred of course. But
rasterized fallback is cool.
Might be worth trying to find someone in the Drupal community to
help us out. As it is, Rob is the single point of connection
For the depth of what you need to know to operate on Planet SVG
Maybe should put a call out on SVG Developers
<HelderMagalhaes> (Hi everyone! :-) Sorry about being late. :-| I'll
be listening on IRC only as I haven't been able to setup for the
phone bridge during work hours yet.)
Thanks Helder!
Writing a drupal module: a tall order
Shelly Powers is a huge drupal fan, but she's not taking on more
volunteer work
Maybe she could just give us some design advice, or use Drupal
themes.
Will get in contact with some Drupal folks at Vodaphone
Oracle
Some of these large companies you might not think are into SVG, are
signing up for the Open
It's so technical, it's hard to get "designers" to work on this
stuff.
Upload SVG, rasterize it on the server, specify the size
As it is, this sort of thing is too complex, painful, and manual to
create
Rob may have some modules that could be put in place to do this semi
automatically
<stelt> Rob_Russell, do you think
[9]http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=en&js=n&u=http%3
A%2F%2Fdrupaljam.nl%2Fprogramma-utrecht&sl=nl&tl=en&history_state0=
is interesting?
[9]
http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=en&js=n&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdrupaljam.nl%2Fprogramma-utrecht&sl=nl&tl=en&history_state0=
<stelt> Rob_Russell, i could maybe go (though i would be sleeping
half the time)
Some of these capabilities are common thru other sites, we could
contribute back to the Drupal community
<scribe> ACTION: contact shelly powers [recorded in
[10]http://www.w3.org/2009/06/25-svgig-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - contact
<scribe> ACTION: Jeff contact shelly powers [recorded in
[11]http://www.w3.org/2009/06/25-svgig-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-22 - Contact shelly powers [on Jeff
Schiller - due 2009-07-02].
<scribe> ACTION: Jeff Write down the workflow, [recorded in
[12]http://www.w3.org/2009/06/25-svgig-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-23 - Write down the workflow, [on Jeff
Schiller - due 2009-07-02].
Ooops, created some extra actions
show and tell section
Write up some slides and send out
Describe what they are working on
Dave Porter volunteered to be a guinea pig
My "corporate" example
(It's a server-generated SVG data visualization)
WIth a bit of UI mixed in
On planet SVG: interviews with Inkscape developers, people making
SVG tools
"Success stories"
How a tech really helped them out
At SVG Open, "force" people to describing their thing on Planet
Mechanics: how can you share slides or desktop
Google has a Powerpoint type tool/format
Can we send out Powerpoint?
You can view PPT in Open Office?
Yes
SVGMaker takes powerpoint and converts it to SVG
"Software Mechanics" in Australia
Webex & stuff like that,
It's supposed to be cross platform.
Adobe has something too.
Dave Porter will ask his boss if "Boeing" could host a webex, then
you SVG IG folks join it.
We use Webex routinely here at Boeing, but I don't know how public
that is
Screenshots might be enough
Does Powerpoint have any export formats?
15-20 minutes, Dave volunteered to do this in a couple weeks
Jeff working on getting a different time for the call
Seems like someone misses whatever time is picked.
Closing moments...
Microsoft, Google Webkit, collaborating on DOM3 events calls, next
gen browsers will have a single unified keyboard model.
Events based on keyboards, the sequence of events, IME
Thanks Doug
Question for Rob: did you look at that utrecht URL?
Stelt could fit in his schedule, but he'd be sleepy
Talk offline
Looks well put together, quite a lot going on
Stelt: another thing: people going to SVG Open? Anyone bringing wife
or girlfriend?
SVG WG sending all its minutes to the public list, hoping for more
feedback that way
www.svg mailing list,
<JeffSchiller> [13]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/
[13] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/
<JeffSchiller> can someone publish the minutes?
Jeff, I would if I knew how
But I don't! :-(
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: contact shelly powers [recorded in
[14]http://www.w3.org/2009/06/25-svgig-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: Jeff contact shelly powers [recorded in
[15]http://www.w3.org/2009/06/25-svgig-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Jeff Write down the workflow, [recorded in
[16]http://www.w3.org/2009/06/25-svgig-minutes.html#action03]
[End of minutes]
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