- From: Rob Russell <rob@latenightpc.com>
- Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 15:31:42 -0400
- To: Jeff Schiller <codedread@gmail.com>
- CC: Andreas Neumann <a.neumann@carto.net>, public-svg-ig@w3.org
Sure, I've added some detail in a reply on the forum - see http://www.rush70.com/content/wiki-module#comment-6 . Jeff Schiller wrote: > I should also state that Rob has added a wiki-like module to the > working community site for the purpose of being able to allow quick > edits to site members. Upon casual inspection it looked like it would > be able to provide something easy enough for the average user to edit > should she so desire. > > Since the DOM browser is such a big task, I think that wiki is the > only way to go. > > I've started a forum topic on the SVG community site about this. Rob, > can you provide some links and info maybe? Perhaps we can get started > experimenting with it. > > Thanks, > Jeff > > On 10/8/08, Jeff Schiller <codedread@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Andreas, >> >> Thanks for this idea, it's a good one. >> >> Before I started with the SVG Interest Group, I also had this same >> idea but with Google Doctype, whose mission is to "document the open >> web". You can see what they offer for HTML, DOM, CSS: >> http://code.google.com/p/doctype/wiki/HTMLElements >> >> Here's some more links about Google Doctype: >> >> http://code.google.com/doctype/ -> home page >> http://code.google.com/doctype/overview.html -> overview >> http://code.google.com/doctype/terms.html -> licensing terms & >> conditions (articles licensed CC Attribution 3.0, code & tests >> copyright Google) >> >> Mark Pilgrim gave me commit access to Google Doctype for the purpose >> of being able to mass edit the SVG content and provide tests, but I'm >> afraid I haven't found the time to really contribute to it (at the >> time I was mostly just feeling out Doctype's capabilities). I believe >> these are the only two pages I created at the time: >> >> http://code.google.com/p/doctype/wiki/SVGElements >> http://code.google.com/p/doctype/wiki/SVGAElement >> >> I've heard people like the Doctype ability to build up tests. For >> example this one: >> http://doctype.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/tests/js/document/document-fgColor-typeof-test.html >> Though I personally haven't explored this yet. >> >> Of course the problem with this is contributions fall under either the >> CC Attribute 3.0 license (which I personally don't have a problem >> with) or under Google's copyright (for tests and code), but it seems >> to me that Doctype has the potential to one day be a great source for >> documentation about the open web, so SVG should be there regardless of >> what we do on the SVG community site (that's my opinion anyway). >> >> The other problem I have with Doctype is that edits usually give me a >> 500 Server Error more than half the time. This is a known issue with >> Doctype that they are (still) working on. That's the real reason that >> Mark gave me commit access so that I wouldn't have to deal with this >> issue. >> >> Regards, >> >> Jeff >> >> >> On 10/8/08, Andreas Neumann <a.neumann@carto.net> wrote: >> > Hi Jeff, >> > >> > I would like to discuss a potential add on to our SVG community site. >> > >> > SVG developers often have a hard time exploring the SVG DOM. It is hard >> > for them to read the DOM related spec sections or IDL. >> > >> > On phrogz.net one can find a DOM object browser. Unfortunately it is quite >> > slow currently and not very well-known: >> > http://phrogz.net/objjob/objects.asp?langID=1 >> > >> > I also don't know if this is maintained. ASP errors currenlty appear on >> > some pages. >> > >> > It would be great if the SVG community website would offer such an object >> > browser for the SVG DOM and related W3C technologies. >> > >> > It would also be great if SVG community members could add comments and >> > simple code examples illustrating the use of the various objects, their >> > methods and properties, similar to what is possible at www.php.net or >> > other similar sites. >> > >> > If we have time at tomorrows telcon I would like to discuss this issue. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Andreas >> > >> > > >> > > NOTE: The conf call is still at the same time as last call. The >> > > agenda is looking a little light this week. Please let me know if you >> > > want to add other items to the agenda. >> > > >> > > Details: >> > > - every other Thursday (this week, Oct 9th) >> > > - 11:00 to 12:00 AM EST (check the wiki for your local time) >> > > - phone bridge number is +1.617.761.6200, conference 78444 ("SVGIG") >> > > - as usual, we will be meeting concurrently in a chat room, on channel >> > > #svgig (irc://irc.w3.org, port 6665); >> > > >> > > Topics: >> > > >> > > 1) Process >> > > - new members, introductions >> > > - new conf call time? >> > > - new wiki pages courtesy of Gregory J. Rosmaita: >> > > http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/IG/wiki/Administrivia >> > > http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/IG/wiki/IGResources >> > > >> > > 2) Community >> > > - status of community (Rob Russell) >> > > - domain update: status of svg.org, final disposition (Actions 8, 9) >> > > - theme, external designers? (Actions 5,6) >> > > >> > > 3) SVG Open >> > > - Andreas sent proposal to Google >> > > - status, planning >> > > >> > > 4) Testing >> > > - update from Ottawa Test Fest >> > > - High-performance SVG demos - Jeff to create a wiki page for >> > > brainstorming >> > > >> > > 5) Accessibility >> > > - GTK hacking on Inkscape still pending (Jeff) >> > > - Action 7: Jeff to create matrix of current title/desc behaviors, >> > > can target for end of week >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Andreas Neumann >> > Böschacherstrasse 6, CH-8624 Grüt/Gossau, Switzerland >> > Email: a.neumann@carto.net, Web: >> > * http://www.carto.net/ (Carto and SVG resources) >> > * http://www.carto.net/neumann/ (personal page) >> > * http://www.svgopen.org/ (SVG Open Conference) >> > * http://www.geofoto.ch/ (Georeferenced Photos of Switzerland) >> > >> > >> >> > >
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