- From: Rob Russell <rob@latenightpc.com>
- Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 15:31:42 -0400
- To: Jeff Schiller <codedread@gmail.com>
- CC: Andreas Neumann <a.neumann@carto.net>, public-svg-ig@w3.org
Sure, I've added some detail in a reply on the forum - see
http://www.rush70.com/content/wiki-module#comment-6 .
Jeff Schiller wrote:
> I should also state that Rob has added a wiki-like module to the
> working community site for the purpose of being able to allow quick
> edits to site members. Upon casual inspection it looked like it would
> be able to provide something easy enough for the average user to edit
> should she so desire.
>
> Since the DOM browser is such a big task, I think that wiki is the
> only way to go.
>
> I've started a forum topic on the SVG community site about this. Rob,
> can you provide some links and info maybe? Perhaps we can get started
> experimenting with it.
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff
>
> On 10/8/08, Jeff Schiller <codedread@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Andreas,
>>
>> Thanks for this idea, it's a good one.
>>
>> Before I started with the SVG Interest Group, I also had this same
>> idea but with Google Doctype, whose mission is to "document the open
>> web". You can see what they offer for HTML, DOM, CSS:
>> http://code.google.com/p/doctype/wiki/HTMLElements
>>
>> Here's some more links about Google Doctype:
>>
>> http://code.google.com/doctype/ -> home page
>> http://code.google.com/doctype/overview.html -> overview
>> http://code.google.com/doctype/terms.html -> licensing terms &
>> conditions (articles licensed CC Attribution 3.0, code & tests
>> copyright Google)
>>
>> Mark Pilgrim gave me commit access to Google Doctype for the purpose
>> of being able to mass edit the SVG content and provide tests, but I'm
>> afraid I haven't found the time to really contribute to it (at the
>> time I was mostly just feeling out Doctype's capabilities). I believe
>> these are the only two pages I created at the time:
>>
>> http://code.google.com/p/doctype/wiki/SVGElements
>> http://code.google.com/p/doctype/wiki/SVGAElement
>>
>> I've heard people like the Doctype ability to build up tests. For
>> example this one:
>> http://doctype.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/tests/js/document/document-fgColor-typeof-test.html
>> Though I personally haven't explored this yet.
>>
>> Of course the problem with this is contributions fall under either the
>> CC Attribute 3.0 license (which I personally don't have a problem
>> with) or under Google's copyright (for tests and code), but it seems
>> to me that Doctype has the potential to one day be a great source for
>> documentation about the open web, so SVG should be there regardless of
>> what we do on the SVG community site (that's my opinion anyway).
>>
>> The other problem I have with Doctype is that edits usually give me a
>> 500 Server Error more than half the time. This is a known issue with
>> Doctype that they are (still) working on. That's the real reason that
>> Mark gave me commit access so that I wouldn't have to deal with this
>> issue.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>> On 10/8/08, Andreas Neumann <a.neumann@carto.net> wrote:
>> > Hi Jeff,
>> >
>> > I would like to discuss a potential add on to our SVG community site.
>> >
>> > SVG developers often have a hard time exploring the SVG DOM. It is hard
>> > for them to read the DOM related spec sections or IDL.
>> >
>> > On phrogz.net one can find a DOM object browser. Unfortunately it is quite
>> > slow currently and not very well-known:
>> > http://phrogz.net/objjob/objects.asp?langID=1
>> >
>> > I also don't know if this is maintained. ASP errors currenlty appear on
>> > some pages.
>> >
>> > It would be great if the SVG community website would offer such an object
>> > browser for the SVG DOM and related W3C technologies.
>> >
>> > It would also be great if SVG community members could add comments and
>> > simple code examples illustrating the use of the various objects, their
>> > methods and properties, similar to what is possible at www.php.net or
>> > other similar sites.
>> >
>> > If we have time at tomorrows telcon I would like to discuss this issue.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Andreas
>> >
>> > >
>> > > NOTE: The conf call is still at the same time as last call. The
>> > > agenda is looking a little light this week. Please let me know if you
>> > > want to add other items to the agenda.
>> > >
>> > > Details:
>> > > - every other Thursday (this week, Oct 9th)
>> > > - 11:00 to 12:00 AM EST (check the wiki for your local time)
>> > > - phone bridge number is +1.617.761.6200, conference 78444 ("SVGIG")
>> > > - as usual, we will be meeting concurrently in a chat room, on channel
>> > > #svgig (irc://irc.w3.org, port 6665);
>> > >
>> > > Topics:
>> > >
>> > > 1) Process
>> > > - new members, introductions
>> > > - new conf call time?
>> > > - new wiki pages courtesy of Gregory J. Rosmaita:
>> > > http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/IG/wiki/Administrivia
>> > > http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/IG/wiki/IGResources
>> > >
>> > > 2) Community
>> > > - status of community (Rob Russell)
>> > > - domain update: status of svg.org, final disposition (Actions 8, 9)
>> > > - theme, external designers? (Actions 5,6)
>> > >
>> > > 3) SVG Open
>> > > - Andreas sent proposal to Google
>> > > - status, planning
>> > >
>> > > 4) Testing
>> > > - update from Ottawa Test Fest
>> > > - High-performance SVG demos - Jeff to create a wiki page for
>> > > brainstorming
>> > >
>> > > 5) Accessibility
>> > > - GTK hacking on Inkscape still pending (Jeff)
>> > > - Action 7: Jeff to create matrix of current title/desc behaviors,
>> > > can target for end of week
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Andreas Neumann
>> > Böschacherstrasse 6, CH-8624 Grüt/Gossau, Switzerland
>> > Email: a.neumann@carto.net, Web:
>> > * http://www.carto.net/ (Carto and SVG resources)
>> > * http://www.carto.net/neumann/ (personal page)
>> > * http://www.svgopen.org/ (SVG Open Conference)
>> > * http://www.geofoto.ch/ (Georeferenced Photos of Switzerland)
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
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