- From: Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:54:11 -0400
- To: SVG IG <public-svg-ig@w3.org>
Hi, SVG Fan Club!
The minutes of the SVG IG telcon for Thursday, July 17, can be found here:
http://www.w3.org/2008/07/17-svgig-minutes.html
or as text below:
[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
- DRAFT -
SV_MEETING_TITLE
17 Jul 2008
[2]Agenda
[2]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-ig/2008JulSep/0006.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/17-svgig-irc
Attendees
Present
Don_Doherty, +1.425.865.aaaa, BenoitB, +1.734.272.aabb,
Shepazu, ChrisL, +0321632aacc, +1.724.992.aadd, Christophe,
+1.512.427.aaee
Regrets
Chair
jeff schiller
Scribe
shepazu
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]SVG Book
2. [6]SVG Community Site
3. [7]SVG Open
4. [8]Telcon planning
* [9]Summary of Action Items
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<DavePorter> Hi Doug, is that you out there (shepazu)? Mighty early
for the meeting but that's cool.
<ChrisL> Hi Dave. Shepazu is indeed Doug.
<DavePorter> I'm a IRC greenhorn so I don't know the typical
operating behavior, computer or human, in using this mode of
communication.
<ChrisL> no problem. you type stuff, other people on the channel see
it
<DavePorter> Yes, no rocket science at all.
<ChrisL> its handy for pasting URIs etc sather than reading them
aloud on a phone call
<ChrisL> also there are two bots on this channel
<ChrisL> one, zakim, is an interface to our phone system (also
called Zakim)
<ChrisL> the other, rrsagent, is for logging. it allows minutes to
be made automatically
<DavePorter> Well maybe it IS rocket science. Thanks Chris.
<ChrisL> there are a few bits of - well, not rocket science but
special commands, especially to the bots to get them to do things.
But you will pick those up as you need them
<ChrisL> I just corrected a typo i made, by using the command
s/9also/(also/
<ChrisL> Now I asked rrsagent for a pointer to the log it is making
<ChrisL> and there, i set the access rights so the logs are public.
which they should be on this channel by default, but just to be sure
<DavePorter> 425 is Bellevue, WA, USA
[10]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/IG/wiki/Main_Page
[10] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/IG/wiki/Main_Page
<ddailey> I think i am here
<codedread> you are
<DavePorter> There sure is a lot of "crosstalk" on the audio, if
there is any way to mute your microphone when not talking, that
would be appreciated.
<scribe> scribenick: shepazu
Donald_Doherty: been with w3c for 3 years (Brainstage)
... health care industry
... we have an SVG application
... in pittsburgh, pa
Bruce_: I'm in Denver, buildiing SVG Apps for years
Christophe: I work at Catholic University in Leuven in Belgium,
interested in Web Accessibility
... wrote report on accessibility issues in SVG
SVG Book
ddailey: professor of computer science at slippery rock, worked with
SVG for 5 years
... background in graph theory
... wrote a book on SVG, started 3 years ago
... brought to Prentice Hall
... they sat on it for a year, but were worried about the cost due
to color graphics
... wanted to refocus it on mobile, and publish electronically
... good reviews otherwise
... thought W3C might be a better venue, not worried about the money
ChrisL: excellent...
... yes, color is hard for printers
... not sure you'd get publication credit from an electronic version
... this is great for people new to the subject
... publisher interest seems to have cooled
[11]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/IG/resources/StateOfArt-Dailey.ht
ml
[11]
http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/IG/resources/StateOfArt-Dailey.html
<ed_work> that's really nice, david++ :)
<Donald_Doherty> Great work David! Yes. Publish!!
<Bruce_> I think publishing this would be a great idea
shepazu: we have an opportunity to publish this at W3C, legal is
drawing up a copyright assignment
would this group agree to the publication?
<ChrisL> adding links to examples would be helpful
ddailey: we could make the examples live, since it will be a web
document
Rob_Russell: making it live means maintenence
DavePorter: this looks terrific, but I have mild reservation about
highlighting only one of many publications and resources
Resolution: pending approval by everyone on the SVG IG list, we will
publish this book as a W3C note
SVG Community Site
<Bruce_> What about reusing your examples David? (copyright,
credits?)
shepazu: this is only one of many resources, and we can link to all
of them
... on either the SVG IG page, or the SVG community site
Bruce_: what about reuse of the examples?
ddailey: up to w3c license
shepazu: that's a good use case, and I'll press that with Legal
codedread: we'd like to build upon the community sites and svg sites
out there
... Rob_Russell is working on a drupal installation
shepazu: svg.org is owned by someone else
... rather not use that domain name
codedread: please let Rob_Russell or myself know if you want to help
DS describes the basic layout of SVG.org
Rob_Russell: I think Drupal can do all of that, with module
<DavePorter> As long as a proposed SVG community site comes up high
in the response off a Google search, doesn't really matter much what
domain it is or what it's called. IMO. Also, would be cool to have a
more graphical-oriented interface, if that's not too risky to
suggest.
shepazu: samples, howtos, etc.
<codedread> web software should have elements of: blog, article
publishing, wiki, possibility of mailing list
Rob_Russell: having it live svg has some costs, where IE doesn't
render SVG
... so we should have some fallback
<DavePorter> Have you seen w3schools.com, the code-exampleapproach
where you've got a "source window" paired with a "result window" and
you can get in there and edit the source, click "try it" or
something and the result window changes.
codedread: we need to let non-SVG browser users see some of the
content
<DavePorter> That's a very cool open ended approach to demonstrating
code examples.
Rob_Russell: header images and such for tutorials should have png
fallbacks
<Bruce_> Isn't this what Wikipedia is doing? SVG if available, PNG
as fallback
Rob_Russell: having progressive enhancement over time is best
<ed_work> wikipedia shows pngs in pages but allow you to get the
source svg if you want
<DavePorter> Example:
[12]http://w3schools.com/css/tryit.asp?filename=trycss_background-re
peat_no-repeat
[12]
http://w3schools.com/css/tryit.asp?filename=trycss_background-repeat_no-repeat
<ddailey> It might also be fun to have "portal" or something of the
sort into which people can go easily to see cool examples running
SMIL and filters and so forth
SVG Open
<Bruce_> I will attending and presenting
<ddailey> I am going
<ChrisL> i will
shepazu: we will have an informal dinner meeting of the SVG IG one
night there
<Donald_Doherty> Should be at least once every two weeks.
Telcon planning
<ChrisL> suggest weekly or biweekly
<DavePorter> I like every two weeks
<codedread> every two weeks is fine
<DavePorter> No problem with this time (8:00 a.m. pacific)
<DavePorter> Thank you, very good meeting!
Resolution: meet every 2 weeks at this time
Summary of Action Items
[End of minutes]
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