- From: Fred Esch <fesch@us.ibm.com>
- Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 10:22:24 -0500
- To: "SVG-A11y TF" <public-svg-a11y@w3.org>
- Message-Id: <201510271526.t9RFQaQ2018357@d03av05.boulder.ibm.com>
All, No meeting this week, TPAC is going on. I made several edits to the Graphics Module to fix ReSpec errors and I removed the figure section which was in the Graphics Module until figure was included in ARIA 1.1. In reviewing the Graphics Module I found several issues. We can discuss them when we meet again - in a couple of weeks. No changes for the issues below have been made. Section: Abstract We should mention user agents as well as assistive technologies in the abstract. Other places in the doc, we call out user agents or features that will be done by user agents and not just AT, for instance in the introduction we state "enable semantic navigation, alternative styling, and interactivity support". Below is the abstract with the suggested changes. The only changes are 'web graphic' is used in the first sentence instead of 'document' and 'user agents and assistive technologies' are used instead of 'assistive technologies' throughout the first paragraph. I styled the changes in purple and added angle brackets for those who can't see the purple color. <User agents and> assistive technologies need semantic information about the structures and expected behaviors of a <web graphic> in order to convey appropriate information to persons with disabilities. This specification defines a [WAI-ARIA] module of core roles, states and properties specific to web graphics. These semantics allow an author to express the logical structure of the graphic to <user agents and> assistive technologies. <User agents and> assitive technologies could then enable semantic navigation and adapt styling and interactive features, to provide an optimal experience for the audience. These features complement the graphics and document structure elements defined by [HTML5] and [SVG2]. This document is part of the WAI-ARIA suite described in the WAI-ARIA Overview. Section: 4.1 Definition of Roles Example 1 We don't discuss aria-flowto anywhere and aria-flowto appears in the example. I would remove aria-flowto from the example. Question - why was role graphics-symbol used on a group in the example. The alternative is to use role graphics-symbol on the path and role none on the group. graphics-doc characteristics table related roles should figure be a related role? Example 2 Examples 3 and 4 are sufficient examples. I would eliminate example 2 until the role (graphics-)symbol is moved to ARIA core. Using role graphics-symbol on an img element in a list may confuse a user since the default img role already works and a similar examples using the default role appear elsewhere in other docs. Example 3 We don't discuss aria-flowto anywhere. And aria-flowto appears in the example. I would remove aria-flowto from the example. We haven't agreed that aria-roledescription is the way we want to go. I would remove aria-rolediescription from the example. Regards, Fred Esch Watson, IBM, W3C Accessibility IBM Watson Watson Release Management and Quality --1__ BBF478DFC239418f9e8a93df938690918c0ABBF478DFC23941 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline <html><body><p>All,<br><br>No meeting this week, TPAC is going on.<br><br>I made several edits to the Graphics Module to fix ReSpec errors and I removed the figure section which was in the Graphics Module until figure was included in ARIA 1.1.<br><br><br>In reviewing the Graphics Module I found several issues. We can discuss them when we meet again - in a couple of weeks. No changes for the issues below have been made.<br><br><b>Section: Abstract</b><br><br>We should mention user agents as well as assistive technologies in the abstract. Other places in the doc, we call out user agents or features that will be done by user agents and not just AT, for instance in the introduction we state "enable semantic navigation, alternative styling, and interactivity support". Below is the abstract with the suggested changes. The only changes are 'web graphic' is used in the first sentence instead of 'document' and 'user agents and assistive technologies' are used instead of 'assistive technologies' throughout the first paragraph. I styled the changes in purple and added angle brackets for those who can't see the purple color.<br><br><font size="4" color="#8100FF"><User agents and> </font><font size="4">assistive technologies need semantic information about the structures and expected behaviors of a </font><font size="4" color="#8100FF"><web graphic> </font><font size="4">in order to convey appropriate information to persons with disabilities. This specification defines a [WAI-ARIA] module of core roles, states and properties specific to web graphics. These semantics allow an author to express the logical structure of the graphic to </font><font size="4" color="#8100FF"><user agents and</font><font size="4">> assistive technologies.</font><font size="4" color="#8100FF"> <User agents and> </font><font size="4">assitive technologies could then enable semantic navigation and adapt styling and interactive features, to provide an optimal experience for the audience. These features complement the graphics and document structure elements defined by [HTML5] and [SVG2].</font><br><br><font size="4">This document is part of the WAI-ARIA suite described in the WAI-ARIA Overview.</font><br><br><br><b><font size="4">S</font></b><b><font face="Default Sans Serif">ection: 4.1 Definition of Roles </font></b><br><br><b><font face="Default Sans Serif">Example 1</font></b><br><font face="Default Sans Serif">We don't discuss aria-flowto anywhere and aria-flowto appears in the example. I would remove aria-flowto from the example.</font><br><br><font face="Default Sans Serif">Question - why was role graphics-symbol used on a group in the example. The alternative is to use role graphics-symbol on the path and role none on the group.</font><br><br><br><b><font face="Default Sans Serif">graphics-doc characteristics table</font></b><font face="Default Sans Serif"> </font><br><font face="Default Sans Serif">related roles should figure be a related role?</font><br><br><br><b><font face="Default Sans Serif">Example 2</font></b><font face="Default Sans Serif"> </font><br><font face="Default Sans Serif">Examples 3 and 4 are sufficient examples. I would eliminate example 2 until the role (graphics-)symbol is moved to ARIA core. Using role graphics-symbol on an img element in a list may confuse a user since the default img role already works and a similar examples using the default role appear elsewhere in other docs.</font><br><br><b><font face="Default Sans Serif">Example 3 </font></b><br><font face="Default Sans Serif">We don't discuss aria-flowto anywhere. And aria-flowto appears in the example. I would remove aria-flowto from the example.</font><br><font face="Default Sans Serif">We haven't agreed that aria-roledescription is the way we want to go. I would remove aria-rolediescription from the example.</font><font face="Default Sans Serif"><br></font><br><br><br> <table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr valign="top"><td width="473" colspan="2" valign="middle"><div align="center"><font size="4" face="Verdana">Regards, <br><br>Fred Esch <br>Watson, IBM, W3C Accessibility</font></div></td></tr> <tr valign="top"><td width="130" valign="middle"><img src="cid:1__=0ABBF478DFC239418f9e8a93df938690918c0AB@" width="163" height="23" alt="IBM Watson" align="bottom"></td><td width="342" valign="middle"><font size="4" face="Verdana">Watson Release Management and Quality </font></td></tr></table><br><BR> </body></html> --1__ BBF478DFC239418f9e8a93df938690918c0ABBF478DFC23941-- --0__ BBF478DFC239418f9e8a93df938690918c0ABBF478DFC23941 Content-type: image/gif; name="09175227.gif" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="09175227.gif" Content-ID: <1__ BBF478DFC239418f9e8a93df938690918c0AB@> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAKMAAAAXCAMAAABQ6Q/RAAADAFBMVEXIx8cxLS5MSUrW1dXx8fE/ Ozzj4+N2c3SRj49oZWaEgYKsq6uenZ26ubmbm5v29vZ7e3tTU1M7OzsfHx/FxcX39/eamppmZmaR j5AgICCqqqrR0dFaV1gAAAAjHyD///8AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAADe7fL7AAADE0lEQVR4nM2WiW7kIAyGTbhz9O6eCL//U6bYGJJOst2dlaqppUm4 +fhtnAH8+gb7sroZxodWGZfA5UxP52+Ic2qVEbLDxujTLXnOTHydSDxNdC7DR+NvYQK02PLQYBDn z5dRw04GAPibKIBec2GKuZjyrtbosVZr72J397Xyc+suPshsiOUBvRb4xavlzYoA2tI+XEQTFDfT rkCFiFLIec8Y82jQ0dIhjOU5lmWGa254owKe/J5xPDBqdYHLphZBm08Zi5/nOnEsEUmHwiG6cx3X Z6k8ID5c6kgHHC4YlblkJHcNlotO7Xp0RVP6lLFIPtTmsuDQDn+FGT4YTy3OXcTFEy85VUYonQMQ WHWopSIdR83aTYRs5bBD9cz+VjBjyI3RbVEkSu7ed/XF8r18ExXF25ZJiWnk/RhD1S1JlFT5mLGc B0KYNJG5rtEkLhjPGUVz32Lh2iw+k68WnhqJjeZTldqBr27dFkCz2mlyooxcac0zJUyWM8YKFnn8 KLofdFy7brvwXLctZs+6KScOTrSr6uft2y4SmJqa+tUcxPeKY/iEcc4+W8qNfYUrdSTtYvnRrfE1 rgk1QOqBs207ideoc2gLJGFMtEQ6YQy53OvwA1DifmM86PhQKxSZ66+uI/o6zdVcMmwtRHrBiGbm XWysp2FTjbERHHUEPXAgtDRxrY5Vfsvph6PebGnFvmcswSnp2PcDcECPdYzkz2M8ziBH9rtl8c/3 Gh/X9TtuOhphWyToedNUzEp0boyZ8zQNnHLrXIhLy5jplBHVINnHmKj+415Lamt+QAdWDkphmcC5 mh8lodvqNsOqDyHw5GjamHjKGLKEj66LuK7i5XfmsVbwdX1+leL9vTiLIiTy8qFFjHwygjQA7j46 sUc/oxpoY4w9YzRW+RbsZeJ135mnJ9ErCuv8T4yqCGH6zYoGOyOXDowSqJ5yRtq6jzq2/z2IL7+l H58eaWxMiULLlRjUOCU2+kfKNkkDuam8KJP6eqPB0+eIU7PexswpjQdG5AAJEOL1X+vPt/7/cuLg UP7L/QtHfANvSEKvsxvttAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg= --0__ BBF478DFC239418f9e8a93df938690918c0ABBF478DFC23941--
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