- From: Fred Esch <fesch@us.ibm.com>
- Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 14:06:11 -0500
- To: "SVG-A11y TF" <public-svg-a11y@w3.org>
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All, I took a close look at the SVG AAM and found a few questions and potential edits. We can discuss them when folks are back from TPAC. General Comment Where ever xlink:href is used can we mark it deprecated? Section Status of this Document Comments are requested by 27 March 2015. We are past this date. Section Important terms Hidden has a editors note asking whether it needs a new definition. We could use Amelia's definition from section 5.1.1 Excluding Elements from the Accessibility Tree Hidden Indicates that the element is neither visible nor interactive and therefore not perceivable to visual users. Use element issues Section 5.1.1 Excluding Elements from the Accessibility Tree Second paragraph after first note. For example, elements that represent filters, gradients, or gradient stops will never create an accessible object. Shape elements or image elements that are included in an SVG definitions section or as part of a pattern will also not have accessible objects, because the semantics of the ancestor defs or pattern element preclude that entire DOM subtree from being represented in the accessibility tree. I believe we should remove defs from the last sentence and/or provide an explanation of what happens with the use element, SVG shadowDOM and the accessibility tree. Section 5.1.2 Including Elements in the Accessibility Tree mentions elements that are interactive elements MUST be included in the accessibility tree, but interactive elements from use element references are not explained. Section 8.2 SVG Element Mapping Table An editors note in the use element in indicates that there are open issues with the use element. 10.1 Name and Description Editor's Note Example 1 has xlink:href (deprecated) should replace with href 10.5 SVG Views Is viewTarget is being removed in SVG 2? If so, should it be mentioned in this section? https://svgwg.org/svg2-draft/linking.html#LinksIntoSVG Section 15.3.3 Predefined views: the 'view' element Annotation 1 We have resolved to remove viewTarget attribute. Resolution: Paris 2015 F2F Day 3. Owner: BogdanBrinza. Regards, Fred Esch Watson, IBM, W3C Accessibility IBM Watson Watson Release Management and Quality --1__ BBF47FDFF64BCB8f9e8a93df938690918c0ABBF47FDFF64BCB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline <html><body><p><font size="4">All,</font><br><br><font size="4">I took a close look at the SVG AAM and found a few questions and potential edits. We can discuss them when folks are back from TPAC. </font><br><br><b><font size="4">General Comment</font></b><br><font size="4" face="Default Sans Serif">Where ever </font><b><font size="4" color="#FF0000" face="Default Sans Serif">xlink:href</font></b><font size="4" face="Default Sans Serif"> is used can we mark it deprecated?</font><br><br><b><font size="4" face="Default Sans Serif">Section Status of this Document</font></b><b><font size="4"> </font></b><br><i><font size="4">Comments are requested by</font></i><b><i><font size="4" color="#FF0000"> 27 March 2015</font></i></b><i><font size="4">. </font></i><font size="4" face="Default Sans Serif"> We are past this date.</font><br><br><b><font size="4" face="Default Sans Serif">Section Important terms </font></b><br><font size="4" face="Default Sans Serif">Hidden has a editors note asking whether it needs a new definition. We could use Amelia's definition from section </font><b><font size="4" face="Default Sans Serif">5.1.1 Excluding Elements from the Accessibility Tree</font></b><br><font size="4"> </font><br><font size="4">Hidden</font><br><font size="4">Indicates that the element is neither visible nor interactive and therefore not perceivable to visual users.</font><br><br><b><font size="5" face="Default Sans Serif">Use element issues</font></b><br><b><font size="4" face="Default Sans Serif">Section 5.1.1 Excluding Elements from the Accessibility Tree</font></b><br><font size="4" face="Default Sans Serif">Second paragraph after first note.</font><br><i><font size="4">For example, elements that represent filters, gradients, or gradient stops will never create an accessible object. Shape elements or image elements that are included in an SVG definitions section or as part of a pattern will also not have accessible objects, because the semantics of the ancestor </font></i><b><i><font size="4" color="#FF0000">defs </font></i></b><i><font size="4">or pattern element preclude that entire DOM subtree from being represented in the accessibility tree. </font></i><br><br><font size="4" face="Default Sans Serif">I believe we should remove</font><font size="4" color="#FF0000" face="Default Sans Serif"> defs </font><font size="4" face="Default Sans Serif">from the last sentence and/or provide an explanation of what happens with the </font><b><font size="4" face="Default Sans Serif">use </font></b><font size="4" face="Default Sans Serif">element, SVG shadowDOM and the accessibility tree.</font><br><br><b><font size="4" face="Default Sans Serif">Section 5.1.2 Including Elements in the Accessibility Tree</font></b><font size="4" face="Default Sans Serif"> </font><br><font size="4" face="Default Sans Serif">mentions</font><font size="4"> </font><i><font size="4">elements that are interactive elements </font></i><b><i><font size="4">MUST</font></i></b><i><font size="4"> be included in the accessibility tree</font></i><font size="4">,</font><font size="4" face="Default Sans Serif"> but interactive elements from</font><b><font size="4" face="Default Sans Serif"> use</font></b><font size="4" face="Default Sans Serif"> element references are not explained. </font><br><br><b><font size="4" face="Default Sans Serif">Section 8.2 SVG Element Mapping Table</font></b><font size="4"> </font><br><font size="4" face="Default Sans Serif">An editors note in the </font><b><font size="4" face="Default Sans Serif">use</font></b><font size="4" face="Default Sans Serif"> element in indicates that there are open issues with the use element.</font><b><font size="4" face="Default Sans Serif"> </font></b><br><br><br><b><font size="4" face="Default Sans Serif">10.1 Name and Description</font></b><b><font size="4"> </font></b><br><b><font size="4" face="Default Sans Serif">Editor's Note Example 1 </font></b><br><font size="4" face="Default Sans Serif">has</font><font size="4" color="#FF0000" face="Default Sans Serif"> xlink:href </font><font size="4" face="Default Sans Serif">(deprecated) should replace with href</font><br><br><b><font size="4" face="Default Sans Serif">10.5 SVG Views</font></b><br><font size="4" face="Default Sans Serif">Is </font><font size="4" color="#FF0000" face="Default Sans Serif">viewTarget</font><font size="4" face="Default Sans Serif"> is being removed in SVG 2? If so, should it be mentioned in this section?</font><br><a href="https://svgwg.org/svg2-draft/linking.html#LinksIntoSVG"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF">https://svgwg.org/svg2-draft/linking.html#LinksIntoSVG</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Arial"> </font><br><font size="4" face="Arial">Section 15.3.3 Predefined views: the 'view' element </font><br><font size="4" face="Arial">Annotation 1</font><br><i><font size="4" face="Arial">We have resolved to remove viewTarget attribute.</font></i><br><i><font size="4" face="Arial">Resolution: Paris 2015 F2F Day 3.</font></i><br><i><font size="4" face="Arial">Owner: BogdanBrinza</font></i><font size="4" face="Arial">. </font><br><br><br><br><br> <table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr valign="top"><td width="473" colspan="2" valign="middle"><div align="center"><font size="4" face="Verdana">Regards, <br><br>Fred Esch <br>Watson, IBM, W3C Accessibility</font></div></td></tr> <tr valign="top"><td width="130" valign="middle"><img src="cid:1__=0ABBF47FDFF64BCB8f9e8a93df938690918c0AB@" width="163" height="23" alt="IBM Watson" align="bottom"></td><td width="342" valign="middle"><font size="4" face="Verdana">Watson Release Management and Quality </font></td></tr></table><br><BR> </body></html> --1__ BBF47FDFF64BCB8f9e8a93df938690918c0ABBF47FDFF64BCB-- --0__ BBF47FDFF64BCB8f9e8a93df938690918c0ABBF47FDFF64BCB Content-type: image/gif; name="0E758409.gif" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="0E758409.gif" Content-ID: <1__ BBF47FDFF64BCB8f9e8a93df938690918c0AB@> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAKMAAAAXCAMAAABQ6Q/RAAADAFBMVEXIx8cxLS5MSUrW1dXx8fE/ Ozzj4+N2c3SRj49oZWaEgYKsq6uenZ26ubmbm5v29vZ7e3tTU1M7OzsfHx/FxcX39/eamppmZmaR j5AgICCqqqrR0dFaV1gAAAAjHyD///8AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAADe7fL7AAADE0lEQVR4nM2WiW7kIAyGTbhz9O6eCL//U6bYGJJOst2dlaqppUm4 +fhtnAH8+gb7sroZxodWGZfA5UxP52+Ic2qVEbLDxujTLXnOTHydSDxNdC7DR+NvYQK02PLQYBDn z5dRw04GAPibKIBec2GKuZjyrtbosVZr72J397Xyc+suPshsiOUBvRb4xavlzYoA2tI+XEQTFDfT rkCFiFLIec8Y82jQ0dIhjOU5lmWGa254owKe/J5xPDBqdYHLphZBm08Zi5/nOnEsEUmHwiG6cx3X Z6k8ID5c6kgHHC4YlblkJHcNlotO7Xp0RVP6lLFIPtTmsuDQDn+FGT4YTy3OXcTFEy85VUYonQMQ WHWopSIdR83aTYRs5bBD9cz+VjBjyI3RbVEkSu7ed/XF8r18ExXF25ZJiWnk/RhD1S1JlFT5mLGc B0KYNJG5rtEkLhjPGUVz32Lh2iw+k68WnhqJjeZTldqBr27dFkCz2mlyooxcac0zJUyWM8YKFnn8 KLofdFy7brvwXLctZs+6KScOTrSr6uft2y4SmJqa+tUcxPeKY/iEcc4+W8qNfYUrdSTtYvnRrfE1 rgk1QOqBs207ideoc2gLJGFMtEQ6YQy53OvwA1DifmM86PhQKxSZ66+uI/o6zdVcMmwtRHrBiGbm XWysp2FTjbERHHUEPXAgtDRxrY5Vfsvph6PebGnFvmcswSnp2PcDcECPdYzkz2M8ziBH9rtl8c/3 Gh/X9TtuOhphWyToedNUzEp0boyZ8zQNnHLrXIhLy5jplBHVINnHmKj+415Lamt+QAdWDkphmcC5 mh8lodvqNsOqDyHw5GjamHjKGLKEj66LuK7i5XfmsVbwdX1+leL9vTiLIiTy8qFFjHwygjQA7j46 sUc/oxpoY4w9YzRW+RbsZeJ135mnJ9ErCuv8T4yqCGH6zYoGOyOXDowSqJ5yRtq6jzq2/z2IL7+l H58eaWxMiULLlRjUOCU2+kfKNkkDuam8KJP6eqPB0+eIU7PexswpjQdG5AAJEOL1X+vPt/7/cuLg UP7L/QtHfANvSEKvsxvttAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg= --0__ BBF47FDFF64BCB8f9e8a93df938690918c0ABBF47FDFF64BCB--
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