Re: Agentic Linked Data

po 13. 1. 2025 v 8:16 odesílatel Antoine Zimmermann <
antoine.zimmermann@emse.fr> napsal:

> Hello,
>
> I've seen this conversation on my radar during holidays and I am
> definitely interested in this subject. Comments below:
>
> Le 12/01/2025 à 17:25, Melvin Carvalho a écrit :
> >
> >
> > so 28. 12. 2024 v 12:34 odesílatel Jesse Wright
> > <jesse.wright@jesus.ox.ac.uk <mailto:jesse.wright@jesus.ox.ac.uk>>
> napsal:
> >
> >     Hi Melvin,
> >
> >     Have you come across the Web Agents CG
> >     https://www.w3.org/community/webagents/
> >     <https://www.w3.org/community/webagents/> - there are several people
> >     working in that direction there.
> >
> >
> > Hi Jesse,
> >
> > Thanks for pointing out the Web Agents CG. Yes, I’ve been a member since
> > its inception—an excellent group!
>
> Thank you very much :)
> I am one of the 4 co-chairs of the Web Agents CG mentioned by Jesse and
> Melvin so I'll try to bridge the discussions between the two groups.
>

Awesome!


>
> Among active people in the Web Agents community, we've been convinced
> since long ago that Solid, or at least a technology like Solid, should
> play a key role in enabling Web Agents to flourish.
>

This is great.  While we are still early, I think we can figure out how
Agents interact with Solid, in terms of profiles, and in terms of pod data
storage.


> >
> > Quick note, as not all responses made it to the mailing list over the
> > holidays. I used an LLM to summarize some key points:
> >
> > *Summary of the Discussion on Agentic Linked Data*
> >
> > *Participants*
> >
> >   * *Melvin Carvalho*: Initiated the discussion.
> >   * *Joshua Cornejo*: Experienced in ODRL and authorization architecture.
> >   * *Eric Jahn*: Interested in agent roles and permissions.
> >   * *Aad Versteden*: Integrates AI and Linked Data in semantic.works.
> >   * *Sindhu Raju*: Focuses on personal data management and consumer use
> >     cases.
> >   * *Matt Taylor*: Consultant in ethical tech, cautious about broad
> >     agentic access.
> >   * *Ram Mukund Kripa*: Developed privacy agents for consent management.
> >   * *Jesse Wright*: Highlighted the Web Agents CG.
> >   * *Jacob Beauchamp*: Exploring agentic learning and entity data.
> >
> > There’s clear interest in moving this forward. I also mentioned Agentic
> > Linked Data on the SolidOS call, where the idea (of agents) was well
> > received. For context, TimBL’s “timblbot” illustrates prior work:
> > https://timblbot.inrupt.net/profile/card#me
> > <https://timblbot.inrupt.net/profile/card#me>
> > Classes include:
> >
> >   * |schema:Person|, |schema:SoftwareApplication|, |foaf:Agent|,
> >     |foaf:Person|, |prov:SoftwareAgent|.
> >
> > (Though Tim noted he’d be wary of something calling itself both a
> > |Person| and an |Agent|!)
> >
> > Next steps: We’re probably too small for a standalone Community Group. A
> > practical option might be to work within the Solid CG for now, with a
> > dedicated chat area for agentic topics. Initial work items could include
> > adapting |Agent| entities to existing Solid tooling, libraries, pods,
> > servers, and apps.
>
> If there is work on this topic in the Solid CG and there is work on this
> topic in the Web Agents CG, we need to find a convenient way to transfer
> info from one group to the other.
>

Agreed!  Discussion is just getting started, but hopefully will continue in
2025.  It seems clear that a common understand of the term "Agent" would be
valuable across groups.


>
> For instance, there may be a subgroup (or task force) dedicated to
> Agentic LD in the Solid CG and a task force dedicated to Linked Data in
> the Web Agents CG, and these subgroups could have meetings together.
>

Great idea.  I will discuss this a bit further and then get back to
interested parties, to figure out preferences, probably over the next few
weeks.


>
> Best,
> --AZ
>
> >
> > Looking forward to further discussion and collaboration!
> >
> > Best,
> > Melvin
> >
> >
> >     Best,
> >     Jesse
> >
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> >
>  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >     *From:* Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com
> >     <mailto:melvincarvalho@gmail.com>>
> >     *Sent:* Saturday, December 28, 2024 11:11:09 AM
> >     *To:* public-solid <public-solid@w3.org <mailto:public-solid@w3.org
> >>
> >     *Subject:* Agentic Linked Data
> >
> >     Hi All,
> >
> >     When I started this group, it was with the idea that Solid = Social
> >     Linked Data. Solid's foundation on WebID ties it to the concept of
> >     "Agent," based on FOAF's Agent class (parent of FOAF Person).
> >
> >     With "agentic AI" really taking off right now, I wonder—would anyone
> >     be interested in exploring "Agentic Linked Data"? It feels like a
> >     natural direction.
> >
> >     Best,
> >
> >     Melvin
> >
>
> --
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