Re: Agentic Linked Data

I'm lurking, but very definitely interested in how this is evolving.
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On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 1:47 PM Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
wrote:

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> po 13. 1. 2025 v 8:16 odesílatel Antoine Zimmermann <
> antoine.zimmermann@emse.fr> napsal:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I've seen this conversation on my radar during holidays and I am
>> definitely interested in this subject. Comments below:
>>
>> Le 12/01/2025 à 17:25, Melvin Carvalho a écrit :
>> >
>> >
>> > so 28. 12. 2024 v 12:34 odesílatel Jesse Wright
>> > <jesse.wright@jesus.ox.ac.uk <mailto:jesse.wright@jesus.ox.ac.uk>>
>> napsal:
>> >
>> >     Hi Melvin,
>> >
>> >     Have you come across the Web Agents CG
>> >     https://www.w3.org/community/webagents/
>> >     <https://www.w3.org/community/webagents/> - there are several
>> people
>> >     working in that direction there.
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi Jesse,
>> >
>> > Thanks for pointing out the Web Agents CG. Yes, I’ve been a member
>> since
>> > its inception—an excellent group!
>>
>> Thank you very much :)
>> I am one of the 4 co-chairs of the Web Agents CG mentioned by Jesse and
>> Melvin so I'll try to bridge the discussions between the two groups.
>>
>
> Awesome!
>
>
>>
>> Among active people in the Web Agents community, we've been convinced
>> since long ago that Solid, or at least a technology like Solid, should
>> play a key role in enabling Web Agents to flourish.
>>
>
> This is great.  While we are still early, I think we can figure out how
> Agents interact with Solid, in terms of profiles, and in terms of pod data
> storage.
>
>
>> >
>> > Quick note, as not all responses made it to the mailing list over the
>> > holidays. I used an LLM to summarize some key points:
>> >
>> > *Summary of the Discussion on Agentic Linked Data*
>> >
>> > *Participants*
>> >
>> >   * *Melvin Carvalho*: Initiated the discussion.
>> >   * *Joshua Cornejo*: Experienced in ODRL and authorization
>> architecture.
>> >   * *Eric Jahn*: Interested in agent roles and permissions.
>> >   * *Aad Versteden*: Integrates AI and Linked Data in semantic.works.
>> >   * *Sindhu Raju*: Focuses on personal data management and consumer use
>> >     cases.
>> >   * *Matt Taylor*: Consultant in ethical tech, cautious about broad
>> >     agentic access.
>> >   * *Ram Mukund Kripa*: Developed privacy agents for consent management.
>> >   * *Jesse Wright*: Highlighted the Web Agents CG.
>> >   * *Jacob Beauchamp*: Exploring agentic learning and entity data.
>> >
>> > There’s clear interest in moving this forward. I also mentioned Agentic
>> > Linked Data on the SolidOS call, where the idea (of agents) was well
>> > received. For context, TimBL’s “timblbot” illustrates prior work:
>> > https://timblbot.inrupt.net/profile/card#me
>> > <https://timblbot.inrupt.net/profile/card#me>
>> > Classes include:
>> >
>> >   * |schema:Person|, |schema:SoftwareApplication|, |foaf:Agent|,
>> >     |foaf:Person|, |prov:SoftwareAgent|.
>> >
>> > (Though Tim noted he’d be wary of something calling itself both a
>> > |Person| and an |Agent|!)
>> >
>> > Next steps: We’re probably too small for a standalone Community Group.
>> A
>> > practical option might be to work within the Solid CG for now, with a
>> > dedicated chat area for agentic topics. Initial work items could
>> include
>> > adapting |Agent| entities to existing Solid tooling, libraries, pods,
>> > servers, and apps.
>>
>> If there is work on this topic in the Solid CG and there is work on this
>> topic in the Web Agents CG, we need to find a convenient way to transfer
>> info from one group to the other.
>>
>
> Agreed!  Discussion is just getting started, but hopefully will continue
> in 2025.  It seems clear that a common understand of the term "Agent" would
> be valuable across groups.
>
>
>>
>> For instance, there may be a subgroup (or task force) dedicated to
>> Agentic LD in the Solid CG and a task force dedicated to Linked Data in
>> the Web Agents CG, and these subgroups could have meetings together.
>>
>
> Great idea.  I will discuss this a bit further and then get back to
> interested parties, to figure out preferences, probably over the next few
> weeks.
>
>
>>
>> Best,
>> --AZ
>>
>> >
>> > Looking forward to further discussion and collaboration!
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Melvin
>> >
>> >
>> >     Best,
>> >     Jesse
>> >
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>> >
>>  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >     *From:* Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com
>> >     <mailto:melvincarvalho@gmail.com>>
>> >     *Sent:* Saturday, December 28, 2024 11:11:09 AM
>> >     *To:* public-solid <public-solid@w3.org <mailto:public-solid@w3.org
>> >>
>> >     *Subject:* Agentic Linked Data
>> >
>> >     Hi All,
>> >
>> >     When I started this group, it was with the idea that Solid = Social
>> >     Linked Data. Solid's foundation on WebID ties it to the concept of
>> >     "Agent," based on FOAF's Agent class (parent of FOAF Person).
>> >
>> >     With "agentic AI" really taking off right now, I wonder—would anyone
>> >     be interested in exploring "Agentic Linked Data"? It feels like a
>> >     natural direction.
>> >
>> >     Best,
>> >
>> >     Melvin
>> >
>>
>> --
>> Antoine Zimmermann
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