Re: ActiviPy 0.1 release: feedback welcome!

On 4 November 2015 at 15:26, Christopher Allan Webber <
cwebber@dustycloud.org> wrote:

> Melvin Carvalho writes:
>
> > On 3 November 2015 at 22:42, Shane Hudson <Shane@shanehudson.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Sure, but it puts a lot of people off. In the same way the old HTML
> >> doctype was scary, despite it actually not being required to understand
> it.
> >>
> >
> > Appreciate the point of view, and largely agree.  Personally a big
> believe
> > in simplicity driving adoption.
> >
> > However, everyone's will have an opinion on what form that will take, and
> > often feel it strongly.  The web is so big, that there's something about
> > almost every technology that puts *a lot* of people off.  Just as in
> sport
> > there's something about almost every football team that puts *a lot* of
> > people off.  Many people are put off JSON LD, or LD in general, because
> > they have never tried it.  I say that because, I was in this camp for a
> > LONG time, but when I actually used it, I found it remarkably easy.  A
> lot
> > easier than its reputation for complexity.
> >
> > IMHO, it's can be more constructive to talk about technical barriers,
> > implementation feedback on this that have been tried, and actual feedback
> > from adopters.  As such I've tried to document adopters of JSON LD on
> this
> > wiki page:
> >
> >
> https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/Media_type_for_AS2#Iterop_Considerations_-_application.2Fld.2Bjson
> >
> > I think it's valuable to share insights on what developers will and wont
> > like, but let's appreciate that there are lots of unknowns, as AS2 hasnt
> > been tried out yet by many people.  If there's a significant deployment
> > that has good technical feedback or objections that's going to be
> valuable,
> > let's try and document specific pain points.
>
> BTW Melvin, my goal here in ActiviPy is to provide an entry into using
> ActivityStreams (technically it can do other vocabularies too, which
> may be better promoted in the future) while keeping it easy for those
> to whom linked data may be foreign initially.  However, there's an
> explicit goal towards encouraging exploration of linked data.  You can
> see this in the documentation here:
>
>
> http://activipy.readthedocs.org/en/latest/tutorial.html#expanding-our-vocabulary
>
> In other words, I think the "compact json-ld representation" is a great
> gateway drug into encouraging people to explore linked data type tools.
> There's definitely a goal of encouraging people to notice that doorknob
> so they can turn it and explore when ready, but also helping people
> become comfortable immediately with an environment which looks like that
> which they already know.
>
> So even though ActiviPy doesn't start with introducing a straight-up
> linked data approach, I think the approach it does take is a nice method
> by which we might see people exploring that space more!
>

Totally agree!  Tho I think once people start to see linked data in use, it
will exceed expectations.  That's definitely been my experience! :)


>
>  - Chris
>