- From: Amy G <amy@rhiaro.co.uk>
- Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 09:56:40 +0100
- To: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
- Cc: Amy G <amy@rhiaro.co.uk>, "public-socialweb@w3.org" <public-socialweb@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAF8MjMGipHNEzjx+1vutDn=2mAtitp+iDS1d-vv99seOBLKaMw@mail.gmail.com>
> > > 1. _:like-of here implies it's a bnode, but I think it's not actually a > bnode. It's going to be problematic for many to reuse this predicate > without the predicate being a URL. Is this something on the horizon, do > you know? > I couldn't say. I actually store <http://vocab.amy.so/blog#like_of> at the moment, which was only ever intended to be temporary (eg. curl -H "Accept: text/turtle" http://blog.rhiaro.co.uk/1438621461) > > 2. The semantics of a post liking another post seems slightly unnatural to > me. > The semantics are *not* 'a post likes a post'. The semantics are 'this post represents a like of this other post'. Hence *like-of*, not *likes*. A post in this sense could be considered exactly the same as an AS2 Like Activity. They are both objects which represent a relationship between a person (the author/creator/actor) and another object (the post). Whether this relationship should be made more explicit is subject for a different thread I guess (possibly something the API can resolve, as AP starts to specify - see 1.1 <http://w3c-social.github.io/activitypump/#Overview>). > I guess this is more for the notification in a stream once a like has > been performed. > Ah, I think you mean the notification in stream *as opposed to a list of things a user likes*. Well, either could trigger either, I guess. Starting from the users' perspectives: > I see your post I like, click 'like'. > you see notification "Amy liked your post" > I see in my feed "you liked Melvin's post" > Jessica sees in her feed "Amy liked Melvin's post" > On my profile, the list of things I like grows to include your post. > On your post, the number of 'likes' displayed is incremented. All of these results can be triggered either by creation of a Like type object / like-of post, or creation of a direct *likes *relation between me and the post. Personally I prefer the first option (which can generate the direct relation if need be), for reasons I've already said (metadata, linkability). > In my scenario the like object can live anywhere. That's an > implementation detail. > I'm not sure what the 'like object' is in your scenario, as you have only indicated the direct relation between the person and the liked thing so far. Did I miss something? My response has been on the basis that you do not have a 'like object', just a relation. > In practice I think I will go with putting the like as close to the > liked thing as possible, as it may turn out to be easier to discover. > I'd be inclined to prioritise data ownership for users, and put the like as close to the author as possible, rather than the liked thing. Amy > > >> >> Interestingly, I don't think any of the major centralised social networks >> I've looked at have external URIs for likes, but I think it's a safe bet >> they have internal ones and store data about the *like *happening. >> Twitter doesn't even allow you to get a list of users who have favorited a >> tweet through their API (though on an individual tweet there's a boolean >> "favorited" property) and a quick search will reveal lots of developers >> complaining about this inability.. >> > > Well that gives us a competitive advantage then, namely, unexpected reuse. > > >> >> Amy >> >> On 23 August 2015 at 01:23, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I've noticed that the concept of a user liking a post is deployed in a >>> number of systems. >>> >>> But it seems there are a number of ways of doing it. >>> >>> I just wanted to see if there are pros and cons of different approaches. >>> >>> Right now I do something like: >>> >>> <#me> <http://ontologi.es/like#likes> <content> >>> >>> It seems simple, lightweight and meets my needs. >>> >>> Are people in general going to use AS2 for this, is there a good vocab >>> to switch to? >>> >>> Thoughts appreciated ... >>> >> >> >
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