- From: Kevin Marks <kevinmarks@gmail.com>
- Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 01:56:09 -0700
- To: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
- Cc: Social Web Working Group <public-socialweb@w3.org>, Amy G <amy@rhiaro.co.uk>
- Message-ID: <CAD6ztsoMD0s1HzcwccCGTHVyXcWvfwzr5_d5CzemOySoJwZ6RA@mail.gmail.com>
With twitter you can get a list of the favourites a user has posted https://dev.twitter.com/rest/reference/get/favorites/list So giving these urls is not a big extension; in fact that is what brid.gy does. On 23 Aug 2015 1:23 am, "Melvin Carvalho" <melvincarvalho@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 23 August 2015 at 09:34, Amy G <amy@rhiaro.co.uk> wrote: > >> Hi Melvin, >> >> Giving the *like *itself a URI makes it possible to to attach other >> metadata to the *like* itself (eg. a published date), as well as have >> the possibility to interact with a like further, eg. by liking or replying >> to it. >> >> Indiewebbers have converged on *like* posts, which translate to: >> >> <http://example.org/2015/08/like-post> _:like-of < >> http://example.com/2015/07/something-likeable> . >> >> (*like-of* being an experimental mf2 property). >> > > Thanks! A couple of things. > > 1. _:like-of here implies it's a bnode, but I think it's not actually a > bnode. It's going to be problematic for many to reuse this predicate > without the predicate being a URL. Is this something on the horizon, do > you know? > > 2. The semantics of a post liking another post seems slightly unnatural to > me. I guess in this case the post is used as an indirect identifier for a > person (or account). Intuitively I think it may be confusing for software > to conflate these concepts, but if it's working for some, that's great. So > slightly cautious regarding reuse, as I tend to have slightly more specific > semantics (ie person oriented rather than post oriented) > > >> >> Where the relationship is between the two posts, and it is implicit that >> the author of </like-post> likes </something-likeable>. >> >> In AS2 the same thing is achieved using a Like Activitiy, ie. >> >> <http://example.org/2015/08/like-post> a as:Like . >> <http://example.org/2015/08/like-post> as:object < >> http://example.com/2015/07/something-likeable> . >> > > Thanks, very helpful. I guess this is more for the notification in a > stream once a like has been performed. "Alice liked your Post". I havent > added that yet, but will be useful in future I think. > > >> >> These are basically the same aside from the *like *semantics being in >> the type in AS2 and in the property in mf2. The result is still a first >> class object with its own URI that one can add additional data to, and >> interact with. >> >> In addition, this means the *like *can be created in the likers own >> dataspace, rather than needing to update the likee directly. Upon the likee >> server being notified of the like, their server can handle it as desired, >> which could include.. >> - creating a direct relationship between <#me> and </something-likeable> >> internally, >> - incrementing </something-likeable>'s *likes* counter, >> - or adding <#me> to a Collection of people who have liked >> </something-likeable>, >> if any of these makes querying etc. easier, but that becomes an >> implementation detail. >> > > In my scenario the like object can live anywhere. That's an > implementation detail. In practice I think I will go with putting the like > as close to the liked thing as possible, as it may turn out to be easier to > discover. > > >> >> Interestingly, I don't think any of the major centralised social networks >> I've looked at have external URIs for likes, but I think it's a safe bet >> they have internal ones and store data about the *like *happening. >> Twitter doesn't even allow you to get a list of users who have favorited a >> tweet through their API (though on an individual tweet there's a boolean >> "favorited" property) and a quick search will reveal lots of developers >> complaining about this inability.. >> > > Well that gives us a competitive advantage then, namely, unexpected reuse. > > >> >> Amy >> >> On 23 August 2015 at 01:23, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I've noticed that the concept of a user liking a post is deployed in a >>> number of systems. >>> >>> But it seems there are a number of ways of doing it. >>> >>> I just wanted to see if there are pros and cons of different approaches. >>> >>> Right now I do something like: >>> >>> <#me> <http://ontologi.es/like#likes> <content> >>> >>> It seems simple, lightweight and meets my needs. >>> >>> Are people in general going to use AS2 for this, is there a good vocab >>> to switch to? >>> >>> Thoughts appreciated ... >>> >> >> >
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