Re: social-ISSUE-45 (mf2jsonldconflicts): Conflicts between json-ld and mf2 examples [Activity Streams 2.0]

On 10 August 2015 at 22:34, Amy G <amy@rhiaro.co.uk> wrote:

> I read this as, for each part of AS2 represented by an example, can we
> point to use cases from our own user stories and/or examples in the wild?
>
> *> A) Can AS2 be improved to better represent pragmatic social web
> publishing and consuming experience?*
>
> If not, perhaps this part of AS2 is extraneous.
>
> *> B) Are there real world use-cases implied by AS2 features that need
> documentation as input for proposing new microformats2 properties (or
> possibly objects)*
>
> If yes, let us document this so that other communities (one of which being
> mf2) may benefit, and the motivations driving the parts of AS2 become
> clearer.
>
> Doing this sounds like a lot of work, but valuable for strengthening AS2.
> I suspect it would be duplication of a lot of the earlier work done to
> create AS2 in the first place, so if anyone can point to documentation of
> that process, or any early thinking, discussions, brainstorming etc, it
> would really help. For those involved with AS1 and AS2, probably the
> contents of AS2 seem logical and obvious, but until this is clearly
> documented I can see the same questions/conversations happening over and
> over as new people and ideas arrive.
>

Thanks for the clarification.  The AS format evolved over a number of years
iteratively.  Some have adopted it, and others have adopted and dropped
it.  During the Social Web XG facebook did say they were considering its
adoption.  For more background this may help.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/activity-streams

"The Activity Streams format has already been adopted by BBC, Gnip
<http://blog.gnip.com/activity-streams/>, Google Buzz
<http://code.google.com/apis/buzz/> Gowalla
<http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/gowalla_adds_real-time_feeds_and_activity_streams.php>
, IBM <http://www.ibm.com/>, MySpace
<http://wiki.developer.myspace.com/index.php?title=Standards_for_Activity_Streams>
, Opera <http://dev.opera.com/libraries/activitystream/>, Socialcast
<http://socialcast.com/>, Superfeedr
<http://blog.superfeedr.com/activity/pubsubhubbub/streams/activity-streams/>
, TypePad <https://wiki.activitystrea.ms/TypePad-Activity-Streams>, Windows
Live
<http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_live/b/developer/archive/2010/06/28/social-distribution.aspx>
, YIID <http://yiid.com/>, and many others
<http://wiki.activitystrea.ms/Implementors>."

http://wiki.activitystrea.ms/w/page/24500522/Implementors



>
> Amy
>
> On 10 August 2015 at 20:40, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 10 August 2015 at 20:37, Social Web Working Group Issue Tracker <
>> sysbot+tracker@w3.org> wrote:
>>
>>> social-ISSUE-45 (mf2jsonldconflicts): Conflicts between json-ld and mf2
>>> examples [Activity Streams 2.0]
>>>
>>> http://www.w3.org/Social/track/issues/45
>>>
>>> Raised by: Benjamin Roberts
>>> On product: Activity Streams 2.0
>>>
>>> As was mentioned by https://www.w3.org/Social/track/issues/44 there is
>>> a disparity between several examples in AS2 between JSON-LD and MF2.
>>>
>>
>> Thanks for pointing this out.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Examples should be reviewed on a case-by-case basis considering
>>> A) Can AS2 be improved to better represent pragmatic social web
>>> publishing and consuming experience?
>>> B) Are there real world use-cases implied by AS2 features that need
>>> documentation as input for proposing new microformats2 properties (or
>>> possibly objects)
>>> C) A combination of both A and B
>>>
>>
>> This issue seems a little vague.
>>
>> Additionally, I am unsure I understand the implications of (B) "proposing
>> new microformats2 properties".
>>
>>
>>
>