Re: Invited expert - Change of policy?

On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Mauro Nunez <mauro@w3.org> wrote:

> Hi Harry,
>
> I believe I have not been able to explain myself.  Let me try again.
>
> - Joining the XG is different from subscribing to the mailing list. Anyone
> may subscribe to the list, this does not automatically make them a
> Participant in the XG.
>
> - If people want to join the Social Web XG they should be either
> representatives of Member organizations or Public Invited Experts.  There is
> no other way to participate, as this is the only way you can get clear PP
> commitments from the people participating.
>
> - People at the calls should be a participant of the group, thus listed at
> (Member only link, available to the Chairs and Members)
> http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=43434
>
> - The Chairs might decide to make an exception once in a while and invite a
> non-participant to the call.  However this should be exceptional and regular
> non-participants need to apply for Invited Expert status.


I think in order to communicate with the wider Social Web community, we will
probably have invited non-participants frequently, but on an invited basis.


>
> - The editing of any deliverable should be done by either Members or
> Invited Experts.
>
> - The public list adds a public accountability layer to the work done for
> the XG, and everybody is welcome to subscribe the list.  However (as you
> correctly point out), if the XG wishes to make part of a deliverable a
> contribution done by a person from the public, you need to make sure to get
> the licensing commitments from that person.
>
> Hope this is more clear.  Per [1], the XG is welcome to modify the charter
> during the first month of operation to clarify the participation bits above.
>

This sounds compatible with [1], and given that the rest of the chairs agree
with [1], then this should be the operational preference chosen, as it
presents no RF legal issues and also keeps the group interacting with the
wider public. If Renato wishes to bring this up with some XG Committee that
fine, but I (and I think the rest of the chairs) see no reason to delay any
further.

[1]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-social-web-talk/2009Apr/0014.html


> Best,
> Mauro
> Incubator Activity Lead
>
> [1] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/procedures.html#Updates
>
>
>
> On Apr 9, 2009, at 4:36 AM, Harry Halpin wrote:
>
>  On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 6:56 PM, Mauro Nunez <mauro@w3.org> wrote:
>> On Apr 6, 2009, at 7:44 PM, Harry Halpin wrote:
>> [snip]
>>
>> Hi Harry, et al
>>
>> Yes, this is exactly how we would like to handle the participation at the
>> Social Web XG.  We will grant Public Invited Expert status to almost anyone
>> who applies, securing this way a broad participation but at the same time
>> allowing the Chairs to clearly identify the level of commitment.
>>
>> Public Invited Experts do not have access to Member resources.  This
>> should not be a problem since per charter, you are planning to conduct your
>> work in public, i.e. using public-xg-socialweb@w3.org and archived in
>> public space [1].
>>
>> Mauro, as I'd like to actually see this XG start having telecons and
>> working on deliverables rather quickly, does this also mean that
>>
>> 1) We can conduct our work on a public list open to those who aren't
>> Invited Experts, but make sure that any work on the actual phrasing of the
>> deliverable be done by Members or Invited Experts so that the deliverables
>> recommend RF only technology (this being done by the cc'ing technique
>> described earlier) [1]
>>
>> or
>>
>> 2) Our "public" list only be composed of those who are Members and Invited
>> Experts  [2].
>>
>>          thanks,
>>                   harry
>>
>> [1]
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-social-web-talk/2009Apr/0014.html
>> [2]
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-social-web-talk/2009Apr/0006.html
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Mauro
>> Incubator Activity Lead
>>
>> [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-socialweb/
>>
>