RE: [4774] Schema binding issue description - please review usecases

So constraint 4.1 states that we can't require the SML-IF producer to
include the schema file in the SML-IF document - so a definition
document may be located elsewhere outside the model. 
 
And constraint 4.3 says that, even if the producer does include the
schema in the SML-IF document, the schema may be written such that no
schemaLocation 'hints' are provided. Even if the schemaLocations are
included, the consumer, when validating the model instance documents,
may not even use these location hints.
 
Do I have that right?
 
--
ginny

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From: public-sml-request@w3.org [mailto:public-sml-request@w3.org] On
Behalf Of Valentina Popescu
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 8:45 PM
To: public-sml@w3.org
Subject: RE: [4774] Schema binding issue description - please review
usecases



Hi Ginny 

What I am trying to say in 4.3 is that a producer of an SMLIF file may
just package existing schema documents ( he is not the author of those
documents ) so he cannot control what schema options are used within
those files. In other words, we have to assume that SMLIF definition
files may be written in any way allowed by the schema spec, for example
using import, include statements with or without schemaLocation being
specified, and so on 

Schema assessment and schema validation represents the same thing;
'schema assessment' is a more sophisticated wording for schema
validation. I am pretty sure Sandy or Michael can elaborate more on this
if necessary :)

Thank you,
Valentina Popescu
IBM Toronto Labs
Phone:  (905)413-2412         (tie-line  969)
Fax: (905) 413-4850




"Smith, Virginia (HP Software)" <virginia.smith@hp.com> 

08/23/2007 09:48 PM 

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Valentina, 
  
I'm not quite sure what Constraint 4.3 is intending to say. Can you
clarify this? 
  
Also, is schema assessment the same as schema validation? 
  
-- 
ginny 
  

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Virginia Smith
HP Software / BTO R&D
916-785-9940
8000 Foothills Blvd | Roseville | CA 95747
www.hp.com/software 



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From: public-sml-request@w3.org [mailto:public-sml-request@w3.org] On
Behalf Of Valentina Popescu
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 2:00 PM
To: public-sml@w3.org
Subject: [4774] Schema binding issue description - please review
usecases


Hi everybody 

As discussed in today's call, I will make sure the proposal for the
schema binding issue will be made available on the sml public list no
later then end of day tomorrow so that you have time to read it and have
comments ready by the f2f next week. 

If at all possible I would like you to review the attached document
below describing the requirements and constraints related to this issue
and see if there are any usecases not covered that you may care about. 

Thank you,
Valentina Popescu
IBM Toronto Labs
Phone:  (905)413-2412         (tie-line  969)
Fax: (905) 413-4850



Sandy Gao/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA 
Sent by: public-sml-request@w3.org 

08/21/2007 10:37 PM 



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Team, 

This is to (partially) complete action 113
(http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/sml/actions/113), on behalf of
Valentina, who's occupied by other tasks. 

The attached is a more detailed description of bug 4774
(http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4774). Note that this is
only to describe the problem. Proposal(s) will follow. It helps for
people to get familiar with the background information and think about
ways to resolve it independently, before overwhelmed by proposal(s). 



Thanks,
Sandy Gao
XML Technologies, IBM Canada
Editor, W3C XML Schema WG <http://www.w3.org/XML/Schema/> 
Member, W3C SML WG <http://www.w3.org/XML/SML/> 
(1-905) 413-3255 T/L 969-3255