Raw notes 23 April teleconference

Hi all,

I forgot to save the minutes with our irc bot; here are the raw notes from today's call.

Participants: Dorian Taylor, Ian Jacobs, Troy Allison, Bev Corwin, Kelly McCarthy, Laura Creekmore.

Ian

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[15:34]  <Ian> agenda+ Calendar
[15:34]  * Zakim notes agendum 1 added
[15:34]  <Ian> agenda+ Draft surveys
[15:34]  * Zakim notes agendum 2 added
[15:35]  <Ian> agenda+ analytics
[15:35]  * Zakim notes agendum 3 added
[15:36]  <Ian> zakim, take up item 1
[15:36]  <Zakim> agendum 1. "Calendar" taken up [from Ian]
[15:36]  <Ian> http://www.w3.org/wiki/Headlights2013/SiteRedesign/Calendar
[15:37]  <-- Kelly has quit (Ping timeout: 60 seconds)
[15:39]  <Ian> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-site-design/2013Apr/0005.html
[15:39]  <Ian> zakim, take up item 2
[15:39]  <Zakim> agendum 2. "Draft surveys" taken up [from Ian]
[15:41]  <Ian> IJ: Should the survey pseudonymize.
[15:41]  <Ian> bevcorwin: In my experience, I get more responses if anonymous
[15:41]  <Ian> ...let people choose to identify
[15:42]  <Ian> http://www.w3.org/wiki/Headlights2013/SiteRedesign/PublicSurvey
[15:42]  <Ian> Troy: the typical survey rates we've seen (3-12% response rate)...
[15:43]  <dorian> what about A List Apart or something
[15:44]  <dorian> zeldman etc
[15:44]  <dorian> blue beanie posse
[15:45]  <Ian> Troy: Anonymous if you can't offer an option
[15:45]  <dorian> agreed, name optional
[15:45]  <Ian> IJ: Any survey tools to recommend?
[15:45]  <dorian> we use surveymonkey at iai
[15:45]  <Ian> Troy: surveymonkey easiest
[15:45]  <dorian> i don't love it but it's Good Enough(tm)
[15:46]  <Ian> RESOLVED: anonymous survey.
[15:46]  <Ian> Kelly: I can help set that up
[15:46]  <dorian> have you done ad-hoc interviews?
[15:46]  <dorian> to generate questions?
[15:48]  <Ian> dorian: The content of the questions....
[15:48]  <Ian> http://www.w3.org/wiki/Headlights2013/SiteRedesign/PublicSurvey
[15:50]  <Ian> http://www.w3.org/wiki/Headlights2013/SiteRedesign/MemberSurvey
[15:51]  --> lcreekmo (~lcreekmo@team.cloak) has joined #site-design
[15:55]  <Ian> Kelly: Want questions to be as concrete as possible.
[15:55]  <dorian> Likert-style questions
[15:55]  <dorian> ?
[15:56]  <lcreekmo> q
[15:59]  <Ian> laura: want broader questions to get out of the obx
[15:59]  <Ian> http://www.w3.org/wiki/Headlights2013/SiteRedesign/ChairSurvey
[16:02]  <dorian> q
[16:02]  <Ian> dorian: Personas?
[16:03]  <Ian> IJ: When is the right time?
[16:04]  <Ian> Kelly: We may need to do some archetypal work for the proposal to illustrate audiences.
[16:04]  <Ian> but real work on "user stories" will need to happen in Phase II
[16:04]  <Ian> ....real work with teams hired to do the project
[16:05]  <dorian> been doing work on value proposition
[16:05]  <bevcorwin> q
[16:06]  <dorian> http://doriantaylor.com/dissolving-the-redesign , http://doriantaylor.com/shady-derivatives-and-the-business-of-software , http://doriantaylor.com/user-experience-design-the-mirror-image-of-marketing
[16:08]  <Ian> app developers
[16:08]  <Ian> implementers of specs 
[16:08]  <Ian> business audiences
[16:09]  <Ian> designers
[16:09]  <dorian> it seems like the html world doesn't care much about lod
[16:09]  <dorian> they wanna make apps
[16:10]  <Ian> IJ: We will need to redo timing
[16:11]  <Ian> bevcorwin: Let's ask them if they want to do 1-1
[16:16]  <Ian> http://www.surveymonkey.com/pricing/details/
[16:17]  <lcreekmo> This is all a good idea. :)
[16:17]  <Ian> zakim, take up next item
[16:17]  <Ian> zakim, close item 2
[16:17]  <Zakim> agendum 1. "Calendar" taken up [from Ian]
[16:17]  <Zakim> agendum 2, Draft surveys, closed
[16:17]  <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
[16:17]  <Zakim> 1. Calendar [from Ian]
[16:17]  <Ian> zakim, close item 1
[16:17]  <Zakim> agendum 1, Calendar, closed
[16:17]  <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
[16:17]  <Zakim> 3. analytics [from Ian]
[16:17]  <Ian> zakim, take up item 3
[16:17]  <Zakim> agendum 3. "analytics" taken up [from Ian]
[16:19]  <Ian> IJ: Still trying to get this done.
[16:21]  <Ian> bevcorwin: Can someone go to MIT and do the analysis under NDA?
[16:21]  <Ian> IJ: I don't think we've considered that
[16:21]  <dorian> isn't Splunk supposed to be able consume obscene amounts of data
[16:22]  <dorian> (ps worst name evar)
[16:22]  <dorian> you probably wouldn't be able to successfully anonymize data
[16:22]  <dorian> and still have it useful
[16:23]  <dorian> well, i suppose you could scrub ip and user-agent
[16:23]  <Ian> bevcorwin: Or do something under NDA?
[16:24]  <dorian> tibco might have something too
[16:25]  <dorian> it almost seems as if dealing with analytics is its own major project
[16:25]  <Ian> topic: Next steps
[16:26]  <Ian> - survey compilation, review
[16:26]  <Ian> - next steps analytics
[16:26]  <Ian> - next call TBD
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Received on Wednesday, 24 April 2013 03:56:27 UTC