Re: Thoughts on third-party conformance; was Re: [Conformance] Agenda for Thursday 10 June

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On Fri, Jun 11, 2021, 9:33 AM David MacDonald <david@can-adapt.com> wrote:

> In my experience with multinations, they have a chunks of their
> functionally provided 3rd party content and these large corporations have a
> lot of influence over 3rd parties… as a result I’ve worked with many 3rd
> party providers who were trying to meet conformance in the context of the
> larger sitr where they were hosted.
>
> If the web site is off the hook for 3rd party content… the 3rd party is
> likely not accountable to anyone because its hard to know who they are or
> where they are… and the web site is still inaccessible.
>
> It might also motivate companies to farm out large portions of their site
> to 3rd parties…
>
> Also, there may be a blurry line between 3rd party content and content
> that was coded by a third party, such as an agency?
>
> I would be shy to exempt 3rd party content.
>
> On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 7:22 AM Wilco Fiers <wilco.fiers@deque.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey folks,
>> After mulling it over some more, I wanted to reiterate that I am
>> uncomfortable with the current proposal, and that I don't think this is
>> ready to be added to a WCAG 3 draft just yet. As I indicated yesterday
>> during the call, I think creating a blanket exception for all third-party
>> content is problematic. Creating transparency about where the inaccessible
>> content is, and who is responsible for it is a good step in the right
>> direction. But I don't think doing just those two things absolves an
>> organisation from their responsibility of ensuring their software
>> isn't disabling their users.
>>
>> I would ask that we continue to work on this. I don't think we've fully
>> explored the options for third-party conformance yet.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 9:01 PM Sajka, Janina <sajkaj@amazon.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Colleagues:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The Silver Conformance Options Subgroup will meet again this Thursday 10
>>>
>>> June at 12:00 PM (Noon) Boston Time (1600 UTC). You can confirm the
>>> correct time of this meeting in your local time zone using this link:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Silver+Substantial+Conformance+Subgroup&iso=20210611T12&p1=43
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Zoom teleconference data is provided at this link:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.w3.org/2017/08/telecon-info_silver-conf
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As always, we'll be on IRC using the W3C server at irc.w3.org, in
>>> channel #silver-conf.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> These and additional details of our work, including minutes and current
>>> draft documents are available on our subgroup wiki page here:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/silver/wiki/Substantial_Conformance
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *** Proposed Agenda ***
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Agenda+             Agenda Review & Administrative Items
>>>
>>> agenda+             Third Party Proposal
>>> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/silver/wiki/Proposal_on_Third_Party_Content
>>>
>>> agenda+             Whoville as Proxy for Views & Processes
>>> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/silver/wiki/May_Report_to_the_Silver_TF#Principle_3:_Scoping_for_Primary_Purpose
>>>
>>> agenda+             Other Business
>>>
>>> agenda+             Be Done
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ***Key Links***
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> (Draft) Proposal on Third Party Content
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/silver/wiki/Proposal_on_Third_Party_Content
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> May Report:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/silver/wiki/May_Report_to_the_Silver_TF
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Janina Sajka
>>>
>>> Accessibility Standards Consultant
>>>
>>> sajkaj@amazon.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Wilco Fiers*
>> Axe-core product owner - Facilitator ACT Task Force - Co-chair ACT-Rules
>>
>>
>> --
> Cheers,
> David MacDonald
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