Re: FHIR examples for driving ontology developments?

I am primarily interested in seeing how an  FHIR  might be used to represent clinical research and specifically how  a FHIR RFD representation could be used with the CDISC RFD representation being developed.  My use case is a bit removed from the overall focus of this group, but with that noted, I would be 
interested in seeing the resources Patient, AdverseReaction (in clinical research this would normally not be associated with AllergyIntolerance Substance as it is in FHIR), and medication developed. (It appears the medication resource uses the substance resource to represent the actual ingredients of a medication and I think this would be interesting case given the FDA's move towards the new IDMP standard that uses ISO 11615 (as does the medication resource) as well as the unii standard. In contrast, I believe most EHR's use RXNorm which I believe also uses unii but not ISO 11615(I would need to confirm that, however). 

Additionally, Given that clinical research and medical records overlap in some  fields, but have other fields that are critical in one type of record but not the other, having these resources mapped could also be a good fit for what (I think) the validation group is seeking to do.

Thanks,
Ingeborg 


Sent from my iPhone- please pardon terseness and typos.

> On Feb 18, 2015, at 10:47 AM, Anthony Mallia <amallia@edmondsci.com> wrote:
> 
> David,
> The value of semantic web is the formation of the graph which links concepts together and to choose a cluster of resources that are linked.
> From my experience I would like to see AllergyIntolerance, AdverseReaction, Substance, Patient, Practitioner (I may have missed some referenced resource). 
> This allows the assembly of the graph from the references defined in FHIR and will also allow us to consider contained resources as well as external resource references.
> 
> Tony
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Booth [mailto:david@dbooth.org] 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 3:31 PM
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> Cc: Eric Prud'hommeaux; Claude Nanjo; Anthony Mallia
> Subject: FHIR examples for driving ontology developments?
> 
> To coordinate and speed our efforts, it would be helpful to choose some initial FHIR examples that we can use to drive our FHIR ontology development effort.  This would not be to the exclusion of other examples, but merely to help us get off the ground by having a common starting point, such as a very simple clinical resource.  We will eventually need to use a variety of examples that exercise different features.
> 
> I'll put this on the agenda to discuss next week.  Here is a starting wiki page for ranking them:
> http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=FHIR_Examples_For_Driving_FHIR_Ontology_Development
> 
> In the meantime, what examples would people suggest?  The FHIR documentation has various examples already, such as for Observation:
> http://www.hl7.org/implement/standards/fhir/observation-examples.html
> or for Patient:
> http://www.hl7.org/implement/standards/fhir/patient-examples.html
> and for extensibility:
> http://www.hl7.org/implement/standards/fhir/extensibility-examples.html
> 
> Ideas?
> 
> Thanks,
> David
> 
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