Re: Propose an HL7 work group on RDF for Semantic Interoperability?

Hi Peter,

Thanks for your comments.  Yes, work like yours is definitely part of 
the motivation behind this!  And for sure, the intent is *not* to create 
new models in RDF, but the opposite: to expose *existing* models as RDF, 
so that RDF can act as a common semantic substrate across whatever 
models we have.  As we all know, merely representing existing models in 
RDF will not achieve interoperability -- model alignment is needed for 
that -- but it is the first step.

David

On 05/13/2014 05:33 PM, Peter.Hendler@kp.org wrote:
> We are in fact doing just that at Kaiser on a small experimental scale.
> We are working with Oxford and RDFox and creating an HL7 "RIM Like
> model".  It is not the full RIM but is Entities in Roles Participating
> in Acts.
>
> I think it would be a mistake to try to put the whole RIM into RDF.
>   Also I'm not a fan of a de novo RDF model that is not based on
> Entities in Roles Participating in Acts, It would then just be an
> arbitrary other model.  You could put FIHR to RDF but I see little
> reason for it.  Since RDF is wide open (almost like saying lets do
> something in XML) you really have to think about what the model is based
> on before you start.  You've only got V2 (no good for RDF) RIM (much too
> big for RDF) and FIHR (not much advantage to RDF for this).
>
> With our "RIM like" model based on Entities in Roles that Participate in
> Acts, we expect to be able to run useful safety and outcome reports.
>   Also we use SNOMED so the ontology of SNOMED will be tightly coupled
> to our model, but our model will not be an extension of the SNOMED model.
>
> I'd be disappointed to see HL7 create a brand new model in RDF that is
> not based on Entities in Roles Participating in Acts.
>
>
>
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> From:  Michel Dumontier <michel.dumontier@gmail.com>
> To:  David Booth <david@dbooth.org>
> Cc:  Anthony Mallia <amallia@edmondsci.com>, "Prud'hommeaux, Eric"
> <eric@w3.org>, Claude Nanjo <cnanjo@cognitivemedicine.com>, "Richards,
> Rafael M. (Rafael.Richards@va.gov)" <Rafael.Richards@va.gov>, w3c semweb
> HCLS <public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org>
> Date:  05/13/2014 02:01 PM
> Subject:    Re: Propose an HL7 work group on RDF for Semantic
> Interoperability?
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>
> David,
>    I'm excited about the prospect, but I think the work group may be a
> bit too broad without further refinement. I'd like to see a charter
> articulated with a more specific focus, and identifying milestones that
> deliver concrete outcomes (specifications, implementations, reports)
> around targeted areas of urgent need.
>   More importantly, I'd like to know what the uptake will be (e.g. who
> will implement this), and how plans on using it.
>
> Cheers,
>
> m.
>
>
> Michel Dumontier
> Associate Professor of Medicine (Biomedical Informatics), Stanford
> University
> Chair, W3C Semantic Web for Health Care and the Life Sciences Interest
> Group
> _http://dumontierlab.com_ <http://dumontierlab.com/>
>
>
> On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 7:54 AM, David Booth <_david@dbooth.org_
> <mailto:david@dbooth.org>> wrote:
> I was at the HL7 meetings last week, and the idea arose of proposing an
> HL7 work group on RDF for Semantic Interoperability.  I took the
> initiative to draft a possible charter.  I meant to send it out earlier
> in case folks would like to discuss the idea on our 11:00am Eastern HCLS
> call today.  Attached is what I've drafted.  I'll join the call and see
> if anyone wants to discuss it.  Sorry for the late notice.
>
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> Thanks,
> David
>
>

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