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Re: Banff demo

From: Alan Ruttenberg <alanruttenberg@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 11:24:53 -0600
Message-Id: <8C5B96D5-78D1-479E-BF1A-CF557ED36E51@gmail.com>
Cc: "William Bug" <William.Bug@DrexelMed.edu>, <public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org>
To: "Mark Montgomery" <markm@kyield.com>

On May 12, 2007, at 9:05 AM, Mark Montgomery wrote:

> Nice work folks on the slide presentation folks. Haven't been able  
> to access the demo, but the goal is obvious. I agree that it's a  
> good foundation to build upon, although it would indeed be nice to  
> have additional sources to work with. Access to sources is likely  
> to be a perm challenge.

Well, we've got quite a lot to do in the way of making available the  
existing public resources before we are data starved. However, I  
agree that specific resources that we would like may be hard to  
acquire due to licensing issues. Do you any specific sources in mind?

>  Of course the communications on value with some will be more  
> challenging than expressed here- I can almost hear the typical  
> CIO's cynical reply after years of reduced budgets, 70-80% of which  
> is required for sustaining legacy-living little if any for  
> innovation, but R&D divisions I would hope be more receptive.

I would. I think we're at the stage of starting to show the  
possibility of doing things that are not available in any single  
public resource. Not too long from now I hope we'll be able to do  
things that haven't ever been done in easily deployable systems.

In terms of value, I think that the first message is that this  
technology is, at least to deploy, very inexpensive. Hardware to run  
the thing at this scale is ~3K. All the data is free, and there is an  
open source version of Virtuoso. On the other hand, cost of  
development of new resources is still high, and we are starved for  
people who know the technology well. Hopefully we'll help accelerate  
that process as we put more of the documentation about how we  
converted each resource up on the wiki, a project for the next few  

I do hope we can more explicitly develop the value proposition to  
companies in the future. From my perspective, for the moment the the  
challenge is showing value.

> Congrats- a good step. - MM

Thanks, and for your comments,


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: William Bug
> To: Alan Ruttenberg
> Cc: public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org
> Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 1:51 AM
> Subject: Re: Banff demo
> Vunderbar!
> Thanks to all who worked hard to pull this off!
> It's hard to get the full impact just perusing the slides, but it  
> looks to me that you pulled together a very compelling demo that  
> examined several questions of biological relevance to  
> neuroscientists studying neurodegenerative disease (AD in particular).
> I also really like the list breakdown of tools to target different  
> aspects of the overall development - e.g., Pellet, Jena, Perfuse, etc.
> I think this will be a fantastic base to build off for ISMB (and SfN).
> Kudos!
> Cheers,
> Bill
> On May 11, 2007, at 2:18 PM, Alan Ruttenberg wrote:
>> I have updated the page http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLS/Banff2007Demo  
>> with slides, pointers to the triple store etc.
>> -Alan
> Bill Bug
> Senior Research Analyst/Ontological Engineer
> Laboratory for Bioimaging  & Anatomical Informatics
> www.neuroterrain.org
> Department of Neurobiology & Anatomy
> Drexel University College of Medicine
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> Philadelphia, PA    19129
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