- From: John Madden <john.madden@duke.edu>
- Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 12:52:13 -0400
- To: Alan Ruttenberg <alanruttenberg@gmail.com>
- Cc: w3c semweb hcls <public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org>
Alan et al, Wow, great topic. I'll need to get my thoughts together on this. Meanwhile, operationally what a uri "means" is clearly related to the question of its (non)persistence. I recently found a wonderful historical review of this topic from the point of view of a library scientist. The group might enjoy it: http://www.aallnet.org/products/pub_llj_v97n04/2005-42.pdf John On Jun 18, 2006, at 1234, Alan Ruttenberg wrote: > > [It was on this list: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public- > semweb-lifesci/2006Jun/0149] > -Alan' > On Jun 18, 2006, at 12:20 PM, John Madden wrote: > >> >> I can't locate the beginning of this thread. Did the discussion >> start on another list? >> Thanks. >> John >> >> On Jun 17, 2006, at 1708, Eric Neumann wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> This is a very useful and important discussion thread, and I >>> would like to see others on the list to contribute their thoughts/ >>> concerns as well. >>> >>> May I ask all the contributors to include HTML links to any >>> acronyms they reference (e.g., NAPTR)? This will make it easier >>> for the rest of us to catch up quickly, and to eventually collect >>> the approaches out there into a comprehensive list of viable >>> implementations. >>> >>> thanks, >>> Eric >>> >>> >>> --- Sean Martin <sjmm@us.ibm.com> wrote: >>> >>> > MW> >>> > MW> I believe this SRV-redirection behaviour is part >>> > of the LSID spec, and >>> > MW> we use it for all of the BioMOBY LSIDs... >>> > MW> >>> > >>> > It also uses NAPTR's as described in IETF RFC's >>> > 3401->3405 to traverse the >>> > URN namespace, allowing the dereferencing process to >>> > bridge the gap that >>> > separates authority name strings from service >>> > locations. From what I >>> > recall, the URN specs specifically do not permit >>> > names and locations to be >>> > confounded. >>> > >>> > Kindest regards, Sean >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Sean Martin >>> > IBM Corp. >>> > >>> > public-semweb-lifesci-request@w3.org wrote on >>> > 06/16/2006 12:59:12 PM: >>> > >>> > > >>> > > On Fri, 2006-06-16 at 10:41 -0400, Alan Ruttenberg >>> > wrote: >>> > > >>> > > > something, but as far as I can see, the only >>> > authority related to >>> > > > namespaces in URLs is the DNS, and while there >>> > is the SRV field which >>> > > > might be used to direct someone to information >>> > about the namespace, I >>> > > > don't know whether anyone does. >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > I believe this SRV-redirection behaviour is part >>> > of the LSID spec, and >>> > > we use it for all of the BioMOBY LSIDs... >>> > > >>> > > M >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > -- >>> > > >>> > > -- >>> > > Mark Wilkinson >>> > > Asst. Professor, Dept. of Medical Genetics >>> > > University of British Columbia >>> > > PI in Bioinformatics, iCAPTURE Centre >>> > > St. Paul's Hospital, Rm. 166, 1081 Burrard St. >>> > > Vancouver, BC, V6Z 1Y6 >>> > > tel: 604 682 2344 x62129 >>> > > fax: 604 806 9274 >>> > > >>> > > "For most of this century we have viewed >>> > communications as a conduit, >>> > > a pipe between physical locations on the >>> > planet. >>> > > What's happened now is that the conduit has become >>> > so big and >>> > interesting >>> > > that communication has become more than a >>> > conduit, >>> > > it has become a destination in its own >>> > right..." >>> > > >>> > > Paul Saffo - Director, Institute >>> > for the Future >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >>> >>> Eric Neumann, PhD >>> co-chair, W3C Healthcare and Life Sciences, >>> and Senior Director Product Strategy >>> Teranode Corporation >>> 83 South King Street, Suite 800 >>> Seattle, WA 98104 >>> +1 (781)856-9132 >>> www.teranode.com >>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
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