RE: Updated agenda for Amersfoort F2F

Hi Linda and Jeremy,

Thank you for  your invitation to discuss MapML this morning (afternoon).

I apologize, some of my answers to questions weren’t very succinct and it probably would have helped had I been present in person.  Hopefully, that will be the case next face to face meeting (Ft. Collins, I believe).

I failed to respond to part two of Linda’s question, which was how does MapML deal with 3D.  The answer is that it doesn’t, except perhaps through hyperlinks.  Currently we have defined a pair of link relations “zoomin” and “zoomout”, which we can use to link the document to another level in the service.  I could see a similar link being used to hand the map off to a 3D tile service or some such advanced  concept.  Of course to be useful to the browser engine, it would have to be a defined (standard) media type with appropriate semantics, supported by the browser engine etc.   So we are a bit of a way from that at this point, I think: better to crawl before we walk and run.

Thank you for the offer to incubate MapML.  I would like to know more about the process – do you have a link for reference?  I would ideally like MapML to become a joint standard by the W3C and OGC members. In the mean time, the Maps for HTML Community Group is open to the public, so can we proceed there?  I would like MapML to be developed and used by all communities, including: geospatial / Web developers, HTML authors, browser developers and so on.  Thanks to W3C, in that group we have mailing lists and other web communications resources that we can use to debate not only MapML but the larger goal of Maps for HTML ☺, and from the questions this morning I believe there is a need for such continued discussion, in a forum dedicated to that topic!

Finally, we (NRCan) are engaging the OGC membership and community by sponsoring Testbed 14.  Any OGC member can sign up as an observer, which means effectively participate in the specific development activities through email etc, and I think the MapML related thread will be quite interesting this year.

Thanks again,
Peter


Peter Rushforth

Technology Advisor
Canada Centre for Mapping and Earth Observation / Earth Sciences Sector
Natural Resources Canada / Government of Canada
peter.rushforth@canada.ca<mailto:peter.rushforth@canada.ca> / Tel: 613-759-7915

Conseiller technique
Centre canadien de cartographie et d’observation de la Terre / Secteur des sciences de la Terre
Ressources naturelles Canada / Gouvernement du Canada
peter.rushforth@canada.ca<mailto:peter.rushforth@canada.ca> / Tél: 613-759-7915

From: Linda van den Brink [mailto:l.vandenbrink@geonovum.nl]
Sent: February 14, 2018 3:43 PM
To: Rushforth, Peter (NRCan/RNCan) <peter.rushforth@canada.ca>
Cc: Jeremy Tandy <jeremy.tandy@gmail.com>; public-sdwig@w3.org
Subject: FW: Updated agenda for Amersfoort F2F

Hi Peter,

As you have probably seen, the SDWIG has a face to face meeting coming up next week Monday and Tuesday. We have now finalized the agenda.  On Tuesday afternoon 13:00 – 16:00 CET we’ll have a session discussing several topics that are related to SDW and of possible interest for standardization in some distant or near future, by either W3C or OGC or jointly by both. MapML is one of the topics we’d like to discuss.

So… we are very late asking you this, but if you were able to join (remotely) for the agenda item on Tuesday afternoon, that would be very helpful for the discussion. On the other hand, we would understand completely if it is not convenient for you, and would be happy to postpone the discussion in that case. Also I have to warn you that we might end up running out of time and not discussing MapML this time after all. Since we’re doing this triage of interesting topics for the first time, we might need more time for each topic than we anticipated in advance. If it ends up falling off the agenda, either because you’re not there or if we run out of time, we will reschedule it for one of the next plenary telecons.

If you were to join, there’s no need to prepare a presentation, since we already had one in the SDWIG earlier. Maybe have a slide or two at hand to refresh our memory.

Detailed agenda and joining instructions are here: https://www.w3.org/2017/sdwig/meetings/f2f-1.html


Linda

Van: Jeremy Tandy [mailto:jeremy.tandy@gmail.com]
Verzonden: woensdag 14 februari 2018 17:58
Aan: public-sdwig@w3.org<mailto:public-sdwig@w3.org>
Onderwerp: Updated agenda for Amersfoort F2F

Hi - please see the updated agenda for next week’s face to face meeting [1]

Note that Geonovum open their doors at 08:30 on Monday with the offer of meeting space and coffee for those who’d like to benefit from working together in the same physical location. The meeting itself begins at 13:00.

Thanks, Jeremy

[1]: https://www.w3.org/2017/sdwig/meetings/f2f-1.html