- From: <Simon.Cox@csiro.au>
- Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 23:33:34 +0000
- To: <maxime.lefrancois@emse.fr>, <janowicz@ucsb.edu>, <armin.haller@anu.edu.au>, <public-sdw-wg@w3.org>
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Yes – a consistent pattern for naming would probably be helpful. But considering the issue of too many properties: a case could be made that they are all sub-properties of prov:wasAssociateFor / prov:wasAssociatedWith which therefore are the general case. Simon From: Maxime Lefrançois [mailto:maxime.lefrancois@emse.fr] Sent: Tuesday, 21 February, 2017 08:04 To: janowicz@ucsb.edu; Armin Haller <armin.haller@anu.edu.au>; public-sdw-wg@w3.org Subject: Re: Proposed solution to Issue-108 - Naming issues with observedBy OK, So you might be in favour of something like three pairs of properties with consistent naming: madeObservation / madeBySensor madeActuation / madeByActuator madeSamplingActivity / madeBySamplingDevice ? Could be fine with me. Although this rises the number of properties a bit too much in my opinion. I would still prefer fewer properties and proper documentation e.g., in the Observation class, document with: "can only be generated by Sensors" Kind regards, Maxine Le lun. 20 févr. 2017 20:42, Krzysztof Janowicz <janowicz@ucsb.edu<mailto:janowicz@ucsb.edu>> a écrit : Hi Maxime, On the other hand, shouldn't we start talking about two other renaming that could be important here to generalize to Observation/Actuation/SamplingActivity instead of madeObservation/madeBySensor , maybe something more general could save us the redefinition of these properties for Actuation/SamplingActivity For example: generated / isGeneratedBy ? I see your point here. Are you arguing for a general generated / isGeneratedBy relation for all the observation, actuation, and sampling cases? Personally, I strongly favor relations that are as specific as possible especially for SOSA (as it does not have anything formal to say about these relations). A typical anti-pattern would, for instance, be a general 'has' relations. Clearly this is all not back and white. Maybe we can come up with a consistent naming schema and I think this is exactly what Armin proposed by madeObservation, madeBySensor, and so on. I agree that we would have to keep it similar for the Sampling part as well (if there would be such a need). Cheers, Jano On 02/20/2017 11:26 AM, Maxime Lefrançois wrote: Hi all, This looks good overall, If the associated vote for this wiki page is: "shall we rename oldssn:observedBy into some term that is the inverse of oldssn:madeObservation ?" then +1 for me On the other hand, shouldn't we start talking about two other renaming that could be important here to generalize to Observation/Actuation/SamplingActivity instead of madeObservation/madeBySensor , maybe something more general could save us the redefinition of these properties for Actuation/SamplingActivity For example: generated / isGeneratedBy ? a minor comment: in ssnx, some ssn prefixes should be changed to oldssn Kind regards, Maxime Le lun. 20 févr. 2017 à 07:02, Krzysztof Janowicz <janowicz@ucsb.edu<mailto:janowicz@ucsb.edu>> a écrit : Thanks Armin, these changes look good to me. On 02/19/2017 08:55 PM, Armin Haller wrote: Hi, I have created a wiki page (https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Naming_of_isObservedBy_vs_madeObservation_in_SOSA) that details a solution to Issue-108 https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/issues/108 that us SSN editors have agreed on. Please have a look at the solution to the small naming issue that resulted from the introduction of inverse properties in SOSA that clashed with a property name in SSN (observedBy) which itself has not been entirely consistent with the naming pattern in old SSN. If there are no objections, these changes will be implemented in SOSA and SSN and issue-108 closed. Kind regards, Armin -- Krzysztof Janowicz Geography Department, University of California, Santa Barbara 4830 Ellison Hall, Santa Barbara, CA 93106-4060 Email: jano@geog.ucsb.edu<mailto:jano@geog.ucsb.edu> Webpage: http://geog.ucsb.edu/~jano/<http://geog.ucsb.edu/%7Ejano/> Semantic Web Journal: http://www.semantic-web-journal.net -- Krzysztof Janowicz Geography Department, University of California, Santa Barbara 4830 Ellison Hall, Santa Barbara, CA 93106-4060 Email: jano@geog.ucsb.edu<mailto:jano@geog.ucsb.edu> Webpage: http://geog.ucsb.edu/~jano/ Semantic Web Journal: http://www.semantic-web-journal.net
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