- From: Phil Archer <phila@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 12:26:30 +0000
- To: Maxime Lefrançois <maxime.lefrancois@emse.fr>, Kerry Taylor <kerry.taylor@anu.edu.au>, Armin Haller <armin.haller@anu.edu.au>, SDW WG Public List <public-sdw-wg@w3.org>
On 03/02/2017 11:56, Maxime Lefrançois wrote: > Hi Phil, > > So the question is whether they use different namespaces. Personally, I >> believe they should. > > > I would also like to have your opinion on the pertinence of my other > arguments regarding communication and usability. > > >> This makes the distinction clear for anyone looking >> at instance data. If instance data only uses SOSA, there's no need to >> look at/consider SSN axioms. If there's just one namespace, you won't >> know from the instance data whether it was created with or without >> knowledge/use of the extra semantics. >> > > Now that's another point. Inference capabilities / entailment regime (as > per SPARQL 1.1). I will try to convince you that again, one namespace would > be preferable than two. > > Suppose we use two namespaces sosa: and ssn:. You suggested to delete terms > from ssn that already exist in sosa. This means there would not exist > ssn:Sensor, but there would be a sosa:Sensor. > > Suppose there is a document somewhere with the following content (let's > forget about prefix declarations): > > ``` > ex:mysensor a sosa:Sensor > ``` > > As the consumer of the instance data, how do I know if the publisher wanted > to use the SOSA or the SSN-new entailment regime? ssn:Sensor does not exist > anyways. > > The only possibility to make it work is to keep duplicates for every term > in the ssn namespace, and add some note that: > > "if a RDF Graph contains sosa terms, then you should use the sosa > semantics. If a RDF Graph contains ssn terms, then you should use the ssn > semantics". No. That's crazy, although, to my horror, I realise it is the current situation, which is why I hope we publish a new version before the month is out. > > --> That brings confusion in the same REC. What happens if some instance > data contain both sosa and ssn terms ? What happens if I want to integrate > instance data containing sosa terms with instance data containing ssn terms > ? what happens if I want to extend SSN with additional axioms ? ... > > > Suppose now we have only one namespace ssn:. My instance data becomes > > ``` > ex:mysensor a ssn:Sensor > ``` > > As the consumer of the instance data, and in the absence of any mention of > a owl:Ontology, then It's completely up to me to use the SOSA or SSN-new > entailment regime. I have no means to know what the publisher had in mind. > That problem is unrelated to SSN, or SDW. In the absence of some > owl:Ontology in the document, I currently cannot know what the entailment > regime shall be. > > On the other hand, as the publisher of this instance data, I *can make this > explicit* by adding an OWL ontology that imports SOSA, or SSN-new. I would > serve instead the following documents: > > ``` > ex: a owl:Ontology; owl:imports ssn:Vocabulary . > ex:mysensor a ssn:Sensor > ``` > > or: > > ``` > ex: a owl:Ontology; owl:imports ssn:Ontology . > ex:mysensor a ssn:Sensor > ``` I don't see how that's different from finding data that uses ex: a owl:Ontology; owl:imports sosa:Vocabulary . ex:mySensor a sosa:Sensor . in one dataset, and ex: a owl:Ontology; owl:imports ssn:Ontology. ex:mySensor a sosa:Sensor. The latter makes explicit the use of the SSN layer, the former leaves it up to you. Sorry, but I see no advantage in conflating the two namespaces. In the absence of any import statements in the instance data, if a dataset only uses SOSA, you know it *can* be interpreted without SSN axioms. If a dataset does use SSN terms, without declaring the import, that's a hint that the publisher is using the richer semantics. Phil > > Besides, I think this issue always remains. Anyone on the web could define > and publish an ontology that adds semantics to such ssn terms. If he then > serves instance data that use ssn terms and his ontology, the > aforementioned method can make explicit the entailment regime to be used. > > Kind regards, > Maxime > -- Phil Archer Data Strategist, W3C http://www.w3.org/ http://philarcher.org +44 (0)7887 767755 @philarcher1
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