- From: Jeremy Tandy <jeremy.tandy@gmail.com>
- Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 07:40:37 +0000
- To: Linda van den Brink <l.vandenbrink@geonovum.nl>, SDW WG Public List <public-sdw-wg@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CADtUq_0FTnqs3yK3KkrQcGb99Lf2aw8__fP+3Pgxf+QJK8iPQA@mail.gmail.com>
Thanks Linda. This seems to be a topic that we need to include in the BP doc. It's an identification problem that's specific to our geospatial community. On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 at 08:25, Linda van den Brink <l.vandenbrink@geonovum.nl> wrote: > Hi all, > > > > IMO what we call features in the geospatial domain are usually > abstractions of representations on maps of real world things; not > abstractions of real world things themselves. I see this a lot in > information models in the Netherlands. For example, we have two information > models that have features of class Building. They both model exactly the > same set of objects, but one model captures the building geometry as seen > from above, the other from ground level. Different features, same real > world thing... > > > > Linda > > > > *Van:* Jeremy Tandy [mailto:jeremy.tandy@gmail.com] > *Verzonden:* maandag 19 oktober 2015 8:43 > *Aan:* SDW WG Public List > *Onderwerp:* Does 'Feature' = 'Real World Thing'? > > > > Hi- > > > > I've been working through the discussion on Linking-Data and this > uncovered (or, really, re-found) this issue. > > > > By OGC terminology, Feature is "an abstraction of a real world > phenomenon". Linked Data folks like to talk about Real World Things (both > physical and abstract). > > > > There's a disjoint here that we need to resolve. > > > > I've captured the question on the wiki [1] and included the content below. > > > > Jeremy > > > > [1]: > https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Linking_Data#Question:_is_a_Feature_the_Real_World_Thing.3F > > > > Question: is a Feature the Real World Thing? ISO 19101 -- *Geographic > information - Reference model* states: > > · [4.11] *feature*: abstraction of real world phenomena > > · [4.12] *feature attribute*: characteristic of a feature ... > > · EXAMPLE 2 A feature attribute named ‘length’ may have an > attribute value ’82.4’ which belongs to the data type ‘real’. > > The definition of *feature attribute* is clear- it's a piece of > information about the *feature*. > > *feature* is not quite so clear. In this context, what does *abstraction* > mean? > > Typically, the Linked Data community refer to *Real-world ‘Things’* (see Designing > URI sets for the UK public sector > <https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/designing-uri-sets-for-the-uk-public-sector> > ); *real-world Things* (or just *Things*) are "are the physical and > abstract ‘Things’ that may be referred to in statements". Examples include > a school, a road, a person (physical); a government sector, an ethnic > group, an event (abstract). > > A commonly used example is Manchester Piccadilly Railway Station. A URI > for Manchester Piccadilly Railway Station would refer to the *real* station, > constructed from steel and concrete with thousands of people passing > through it each day. Clearly one cannot expect an HTTP request to return > the real railway station (!); it returns an information object *about* the > railway station. > > W3C URLS in Data (FPWD) <http://www.w3.org/TR/urls-in-data/> discusses > the need to differentiate between the real Thing and the information > resource that describes it. The Publishing Data > <http://www.w3.org/TR/urls-in-data/#publishing-data> section provides > three strategies for doing so. > > In the Geographic Community, the *Feature* is seen as an information > resource - which is, in some way, related to the real-world Thing. INSPIRE (Generic > Conceptual Model > <http://inspire.ec.europa.eu/documents/Data_Specifications/D2.5_v3.4.pdf>) > refers to these resources as *Spatial Objects*: "abstract representation > of a real-world phenomenon related to a specific location or geographical > area". It notes that the term is "synonymous with "(geographic) feature" as > used in the ISO 19100 series" and, later, talks about versioning the > Spatial Objects. Clearly, you can only version the record of information > held *about* a real world Thing, not the Thing itself? > > So the question remains: are we identifying real-world Things (both > physical and abstract) or information objects that describe them? Once > that's decided, we need to get our terminology clear and stick to it! > > > > > > >
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