Re: [2015-03-14] Minutes

Noted. Am happy to do this … 

Jeremy

> On 4 Mar 2015, at 21:07, Ed Parsons <eparsons@google.com> wrote:
> 
> The is no intention to exclude any technology at this point, the lightening talks in Barcelona are to give an overview of technologies that have been mentioned including those in the charter which not everyone is familiar with.
> 
> Jeremy is very welcome to add a 5 min talk on OWL time..
> 
> Ed
> 
> Ed Parsons
> Geospatial Technologist, Google 
> Sent from my mobile device, excuse thumbs!
> 
> On 4 Mar 2015 20:59, <Simon.Cox@csiro.au> wrote:
> I noticed this in the minutes:
> 
>     KarlG_: noticed that OWL Time ontology is not an existing technology
>     eparsons: no one has come forward to present on the topic, therefore it has not been included
> 
> I had raised this with Kerry (because I have proposed an extension to OWL-Time to deal with non-gregorian calendars) but was told it was out of scope for this meeting, which is focussing on use-cases.
> 
> I won't be in Barcelona, but Jeremy Tandy can present on my behalf if necessary.
> 
> See refs here:
> 
> https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Time_References <https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Time_References>
> 
> Simon
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil Archer [mailto:phila@w3.org <mailto:phila@w3.org>]
> Sent: Thursday, 5 March 2015 7:41 AM
> To: SDW WG Public List
> Subject: [2015-03-14] Minutes
> 
> The minutes of today's meeting are at
> http://www.w3.org/2015/03/04-sdw-minutes.html <http://www.w3.org/2015/03/04-sdw-minutes.html>
> 
> A text snapshot is provided below for convenience:
> 
>            Spatial Data on the Web Working Group Teleconference
> 
> 04 Mar 2015
> 
>     See also: [2]IRC log
> 
>        [2] http://www.w3.org/2015/03/04-sdw-irc <http://www.w3.org/2015/03/04-sdw-irc>
> 
> Attendees
> 
>     Present
>            Linda, eparsons, phila, YolandaGil, +44.792.021.aaaa,
>            aharth, +1.857.919.aabb, JoshLieberman, Alex_Coley,
>            +1.818.393.aacc, +1.603.897.aadd, MattPerry,
>            billroberts, lewismc, +61.4.331.2.aaee, ahaller2,
>            Ashok_Malhotra, +1.412.390.aaff, +44.775.388.aagg,
>            KJanowicz, ChrisLittle, AndreaPerego, +1.650.724.aahh,
>            KarlG
> 
>     Regrets
>            Clemens_Portele, Simon_Cox, Kerry_Taylor,
>            Alejandro_Llaves, Ioannis_Athanasiadis, Lars_Svensson,
>            Erich_Bremer, Rachel_heaven, Jitao_Yang
> 
>     Chair
>            Ed
> 
>     Scribe
>            lewismc
> 
> Contents
> 
>       * [3]Topics
>           1. [4]Issues around work to be done at f2f
>           2. [5]Agenda for F2F
>           3. [6]Conclusions
>       * [7]Summary of Action Items
>       __________________________________________________________
> 
>     <eparsons> trackbot, start meeting
> 
>     <trackbot> Date: 04 March 2015
> 
>     lewismc
> 
>     <phila> ed: Begins the meeting and asks for a scribe
> 
>     <phila> scribe: lewismc
> 
>     <eparsons> [8]http://www.w3.org/2015/02/25-sdw-minutes <http://www.w3.org/2015/02/25-sdw-minutes>
> 
>        [8] http://www.w3.org/2015/02/25-sdw-minutes <http://www.w3.org/2015/02/25-sdw-minutes>
> 
>     PROPOSE: Approve last weeks minutes
> 
>     <aharth> +1
> 
>     <phila> phila: Apologises for last week's rubbish minutes.
>     RRSAgent is running this week
> 
>     <billroberts> +1
> 
>     <eparsons> +1
> 
>     <ChrisLittle> zakim aagg is me
> 
>     <phila> +1
> 
>     <MattPerry> +1
> 
>     <JoshLieberman> +1
> 
>     <KJanowicz> +1
> 
>     <Linda_> I dont see my name in the Present list
> 
>     <ChrisLittle> +1
> 
>     RESOLVE: Last weeks minutes APPROVED
> 
>     <phila> I'll add it Linda
> 
>     <Linda_> thx phila
> 
>     OGC Patent Call determines that these calls go ahead
> 
>     eparsons: new people on the call
> 
>     Alex_Coley: introducing himself on the call
>     ... contributed very much towards this working group
> 
>     lewismc: introduce himself on the call
> 
>     <KarlG_> 1.650.724.aahh is KarlG_
> 
> Issues around work to be done at f2f
> 
>     eparsons: next item, spend remainder of call on the issues for
>     F2F in Barcelona
>     ... main order of activities to go through use cases, package
>     them and group then in similar areas
>     ... common requirements for best practicies in terms of
>     technology scope
>     ... looking at those technologies
>     ... Yolanda has set out an agenda for gathering use cases
> 
>     <phila> [9]Yolanda's e-mail
> 
>        [9]
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sdw-wg/2015Mar/0005.html <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sdw-wg/2015Mar/0005.html>
> 
>     <YolandaGil> The organization of use cases for the W3C
>     Provenance XG is described in
>     [10]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sdw-wg/2015Mar/0 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sdw-wg/2015Mar/0>
>     005.html
> 
>       [10]
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sdw-wg/2015Mar/0005.html <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sdw-wg/2015Mar/0005.html>
> 
>     YolandaGil: proposed an agenda for the Provenance Incubator
>     Group
>     ... how could we describe or highlight another use case and
>     manage the contributions?
>     ... so setting out a plan as described in the W3C Provenance XG
>     document and the email sent to the list the strategy for
>     accepting contributions and also managing contributions
>     ... use cases are important to communicate
>     ... create 3 sythensizing scenarios (flagship) ideas
>     ... 1) general web scenario , 2) science, 3) contracts and
>     industry setting
>     ... has a team of curators who worked with the authors of the
>     use cases
>     ... highlight what the editors are after
>     ... navigate through use cases to see what they highligh
>     ... use curation as a mechanism for arriving at the threee
>     flagship scenarios... this enables the group to work more
>     effectively.
> 
>     eparsons: useful input and overlapping with the scoping
>     questions
>     ... how long did the curation process take?
> 
>     YolandaGil: about 2 or 3 months total
>     ... this work can be combined with other work
>     ... began to do other tasks in parallel
> 
>     eparsons: opening them up for questions
>     ... useful for gathering and managing use cases
> 
>     ChrisLittle: when you were curating use cases, was it easy to
>     extract underlying structure or was it more intensive task?
> 
>     YolandaGil: that was something that was constructed as a group
>     ... once you abstract away from the use case into the flagship
>     scenarios they become the groups scenarios as oppose to
>     personal use cases
> 
>     lewismc: is there a template for gathering use cases?
> 
>     YolandaGil: yes, the template has dimensions which represent
>     the spatial domain
>     ... representation was something the use cases describe, but
>     also where the data should be stored
>     ... 3rd topic was how a user interprets data
>     ... maybe some template of a similar nature would be useful for
>     this WG
> 
>     eparsons: scoping mechanism is a good filter for use cases
>     ... template to identify common characteristics from across use
>     cases
>     ... trial and error approach, we can iterate until we find a
>     good fit
> 
>     <eparsons>
>     [11]https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/F2f_Barcelona <https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/F2f_Barcelona>
> 
>       [11] https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/F2f_Barcelona <https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/F2f_Barcelona>
> 
> Agenda for F2F
> 
>     eparsons: a number of individuals have put together what the
>     agenda should look like
>     ... think that the best manner to approach is to split in to
>     groups then take one requirement for each group
>     ... spend most of the day doing that with break for 1pm for
>     lunch
>     ... after lunch come together to derive common characteristics
>     ... towards end of day run lightning talks for technologies
>     overview
>     ... hard stop at 5:30PM
>     ... would appreciate some input on how to define subgroups
>     ... opening up to questions and comments for the agenda?
> 
>     KarlG_: noticed that OWL Time ontology is not an existing
>     technology
> 
>     eparsons: no one has come forward to present on the topic,
>     therefore it has not been included
> 
>     <phila> Are you volunteering KarlG_ ?
> 
>     KarlG_: associated question, many technology incl, GeoJSON have
>     deficiencies which may make their way into discussion
> 
>     eparsons: lightning talks act to get everyone on to the same
>     page.
> 
>     <KJanowicz> IMHO the talks are just 'selected topics' not an
>     overview about all details and all relevant technologies
> 
>     eparsons: will drill into more detail further down the line
> 
>     KarlG_: will not be able to make it so cannot commit to a
>     presentation
> 
>     Linda_: ends at 5:30PM... is that not 6:30PM?
> 
>     eparsons: No
> 
>     Linda_: topic discussed at the end, thought that the idea was
>     to look into general technologies which fit into the best
>     practicies as oppose to other technologies outside of that
>     immediate scope
> 
>     eparsons: lightning talks are only meant to getting everyone on
>     the same page, they do not represent an exclusive list
>     ... F2F meeting organizers are going to make use of GoToMeeting
>     software for remote participants to participate as fully as
>     possible
> 
>     <JoshLieberman> When you click on a GTM meeting link, it will
>     download the app at the time.
> 
>     <phila>
>     [12]https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/F2f_Barcelona#Tuesday_ <https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/F2f_Barcelona#Tuesday_>
>     Evening_meetup
> 
>       [12]
> https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/F2f_Barcelona#Tuesday_Evening_meetup <https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/F2f_Barcelona#Tuesday_Evening_meetup>
> 
>     phila: minor point regarding bottom of agenda page, Kerry will
>     be finding a place where everyone can meet up
>     ... location will be on the wiki shortly
> 
>     <ChrisLittle> +1
> 
>     <AndreaPerego> +1
> 
>     <JoshLieberman> The link to the go to meeting session for the
>     f2f is already reserved:
>     [13]https://www4.gotomeeting.com/join/353923093 <https://www4.gotomeeting.com/join/353923093>
> 
>       [13] https://www4.gotomeeting.com/join/353923093 <https://www4.gotomeeting.com/join/353923093>
> 
>     eparsons: F2F next week will be no telecon, week after will be
>     review of F2F
> 
>     phila: suggests reading long list of use cases prior to F2F
>     ... please check for day light savings time
>     ... U.S. is changing DST, so please keep an eye
> 
>     billroberts: not going to be able to join the F2F,
>     ... is it possible to submit some 'homework'
> 
>     eparsons: please put all on to the public list
>     ... template ideas, general groupings, etc
>     ... all to the public list
>     ... these can then be taken to the F2F
> 
>     ChrisLittle: was trying quite hard to get a health use case
>     ... possibly produce a health use case
> 
>     <phila> I added a medical use case this eve on behalf of Erich
>     Bremer who has joined the group
> 
>     <JoshLieberman> There are demographic use cases with same
>     characteristic
> 
>     eparsons: use cases gathering task will end shortly so getting
>     them in soon enough would be great
> 
>     Linda_: upon review of use case, they all seem to be public or
>     government... with no private
> 
>     eparsons: I have added some private ones... it is important to
>     include these
> 
> Conclusions
> 
>     <ChrisLittle> bye
> 
>     <KarlG_> bye all
> 
>     <AndreaPerego> See you in Barcelona
> 
>     <JoshLieberman> bye
> 
>     see everonenetxt week
> 
>     <KJanowicz> bye
> 
>     <eparsons> bye all
> 
>     <Alex_Coley> bye
> 
>     <MattPerry> bye
>